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Roy’s Trade Talk: Rd 12

Roy helps you navigate the first round of the byes. Use the comments section to discuss your plans with the community.

  • Roy

Ok, whole new ball game. We have a challenge ahead over the next three weeks navigating the byes, but remember, we have three trades each week to assist and our scores comes from the best 18 players on our fields. Minimising doughnuts and ensuring that our teams are better at the end of the byes than when it began is essential. To make that happen, resisting the temptation to straight swap premiums each week will be important.

Obviously, not all the players mentioned today will be relevant depending on bye structure, so trade carefully.

 

Cash Cows: Price, BE, Score

  • Logan Austin (DEF, $294,000) -39, 112. Increased by a last 72K last week after he pumped out another massive score of 112. He is playing loose man and is currently the go to guy back there, evident by the 14 marks he took. He is now averaging 105, a far cry from the 30 he averaged at Port Adelaide. Yes, we have missed the boat to some extent, but the price rises and scoring ceiling over the byes would be very handy.
  • Paul Ahern (FWD/MID, $207,000) -15, 92 made his long awaited debut and didn’t let anyone down with an outstanding performance that made the wait worthwhile. Unfortunately, many of our teams are heavy in the round 13 bye and that’s when the Roos are having the week off… But having said that, he looks like a must have in the long run, I just hope it wouldn’t cause a 0.

Trade Targets

  • Justin Westhoff (MID/FWD, $659,000) 115, 96. Based purely on BE, you may be wondering why the Hoff is a headline act here, but he looks to be the most consistent option from the Power and Suns who can serve as an anchor over the next three weeks. He has handy DPP between the mid and forwards and is averaging 101 for the season. I like his form in Adelaide where he has 132, 75, 118 and 115 this year and it just so happens he plays the next three games there.
  • Angus Brayshaw (MID/DEF, $655,000) 39, 133 is a must have in the back line… The question is when? Obviously he is not getting any cheaper than this, but with teams loaded in the round 13 byes it really could put the pressure on for a doughnut. If that isn’t an issue for you, the time is right. He has a three round average of 133 which includes four hundreds from his last five games
  • Michael Waters (FWD/MID, $575,000) 66, 102 is going under the radar, currently only owned by five percent of the competition despite enjoying a career year. He has a three round average of 109 and only remains this cheap due to an injury on 11 in round six which broke up a run of hot scores including 92, 99, 125 and 102. He has the round 14 bye, so will be very handy in round 13 especially.
  • Darcy Byrne Jones (DEF, $568,000) 79, 73 had his worst score for five weeks since embracing the increased responsibility without Hamish Hartlett. His 73 followed two scores of triple figures and although he is no Brayshaw… he will be there for the next three weeks, all of which are in Adelaide where he has scores of 104 and 95 in his last two.
  • Touk Miller (MID, $625,000) I have had many questions come through about Touk as an answer through the byes, given the fact he will be there every week. Trades like this have merit, but are fraught with danger. His form is solid with scores of 106, 105, 107, 88 and 99 in his last five so his price is fair and he should be a solid contributor over the byes but you would want to be able to move him on pretty fast after the byes as he clogs a midfield spot. I wouldn’t do it.

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Rolling 22

Defenders:

Rory Laird
Elliot Yeo
Sic Dawg
Kade Simpson
Jake Lloyd
Angus Brayshaw

 

Midfielders:

Tom Mitchell
Stephen Coniglio
Ed Curnow
Jack Macrae
Adam Treloar
Dayne Beams 128 last three
Tom Phillips 128 last three
Dayne Zorko 128 last three

OUT: Danger, Pendles, Fyfe

 

Ruck:

Max Gawn
Brodie Grundy

Forward:

Isaac Heeney
Toby Mclean
Mitch Robinson
Devon Smith
Sam Menegola back to back 120
Michael Walters 109 last three

OUT: Gray, Rocky,

Knocking: Tom McDonald, Josh Caddy, Alex Neal-Bullen, Justin Westhoff

My trades at this stage:

Kelly to Ahern
Cumming to Austin
Brayshaw to Brayshaw

 

Cheers,
@RoyDT

55 Comments

55 Comments

  1. The Official Oscar McInerney

    June 5, 2018 at 7:43 am

    is it too early to get rid of guelfi even if it means that I can trade him to brayashaw.

    higgins to ahern
    Mcinereney to jones
    guelfi to brayshaw

    • The Official Oscar McInerney

      June 5, 2018 at 7:49 am

      Or Higgins to Ahern
      L Murphy to Austin
      Tuohy to Brayshaw

    • Alan J

      June 5, 2018 at 8:04 am

      Mate.. You can’t trade yourself out surely, back yourself in for a BIG week!!

  2. Roger

    June 5, 2018 at 8:08 am

    Robinson broke his toe so doubt will finish as a top 6 fwd now

    • Brendan

      June 5, 2018 at 11:21 am

      Is it top 6 fwd ‘now’ or top 6 fwd at years end?

  3. Anth80

    June 5, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Surely Jack Crisp is knocking on the door as a top 6 defender.

    Anyhow what’s better.

    Mutch to Giro
    Christensen to Ahern
    Billings to McLean

    Same two and Billings to Westhoff

    Same two but Gowers to Westhoff

    • Anthony Royds

      June 5, 2018 at 9:27 am

      go gowers to westhoff

    • Shags

      June 5, 2018 at 11:50 am

      McLean isnt playing this week. May as well hold on trading til next week.

      • Anth80

        June 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm

        I’m doing that thanks Shags.
        It’s either Billings to Westhoff with 220k in bank for him next week or Gowers to Westhoff and have 93k in bank.
        Which one do you like?

        • Adrian

          June 5, 2018 at 1:16 pm

          Go Billings to the Hoff mate and bank up the cash. Ride Gowers through the byes as he has that valuable Rd 12 bye.

  4. Mitch

    June 5, 2018 at 8:54 am

    Do I get either gibbs this week, and Treloar next week, or treloar this week and get Mcrae next week, i have 667k

    • Alan J

      June 5, 2018 at 9:33 am

      Treloar & Macrae

  5. James

    June 5, 2018 at 8:58 am

    Whacked out 22 here, Westhoff the 3rd highest averaging FWD and not even in the 22?????Also dunno how he can be classed in the same category as Neal-Bullen, who’s scored 3 tons this entire season, with 2 coming in the last 2 weeks where they’ve won by a combined 140 points

    • Simon

      June 5, 2018 at 9:43 am

      Coaches can be crippled by short-term thinking… ANB and a few others aren’t even on my radar for this very reason. Suits me though, as blokes who are go unnoticed and become PODs in the run to the line.

    • PowerAde

      June 5, 2018 at 10:12 am

      yeah, agree that westhoff should be in fwd line, rest look good but

  6. Mad Fish

    June 5, 2018 at 9:36 am

    What do we think of Mihocek? Stacked in defence for the round 14 bye so trying not to get Austin, but looking for a downgrade. Does he have good job security?

    • Simon

      June 5, 2018 at 9:45 am

      Anyone who kicks 4 on debut surely gets a few more games at least…

  7. zman

    June 5, 2018 at 9:39 am

    who do i get

    angus brayshaw or jack crisp

    both doing really well

    • Grovers Guns

      June 5, 2018 at 10:12 am

      I have stayed away from Brayshaw because of the chance of getting a head knock finishing his season, but have succumbed this week as his form and BE is too good to miss and lessens the risk/loss.
      Don’t see Crisp being Top 6 but would be top 10

      • Anth80

        June 5, 2018 at 10:30 am

        I went Crisp.
        I had the same dilemma 2 weeks ago.
        Crisp has scored 4 hundreds on the trot now.
        I can see him being top 6.
        Brayshaw is good too and will be my Seedsman or Hibberd replacement rnd 14.

  8. Grovers Guns

    June 5, 2018 at 10:10 am

    Im pretty stacked with R14 players

    Gone – Billings to Ahern
    Pearce to Austin
    Doedee to Brayshaw

    Gives me 22 players for this week (depending on BS MRP with Fyfe and Cognilio and TSmith injuries)
    Current structure 19 for next week
    Current structure 16 for R14 (though my plans are Ridley – Yeo and Kelly to Gaff next week plus a downgrade and then Ronke, either Rice/Austin out getting me over 19players available)

  9. MAISON

    June 5, 2018 at 10:41 am

    WHY IS GAFF NOT IN THE TOP 8 MIDS?????

    • Simon

      June 5, 2018 at 4:09 pm

      He’s unfashionable and susceptible to a tag / shocker. He’s having a good year though and will be in my team next week

      • eLNoss

        June 7, 2018 at 9:03 am

        Mate his form this season says otherwise. Perhaps in seasons past but have a look at his scores. Low of 86 and only 4 under triple figures. Also has a high ceiling. Him and Macrae are in my team by rd 13.

  10. Alan J

    June 5, 2018 at 10:43 am

    I think I’m in a draft league where 1 guy has 3 accounts.. So far he’s brought in Simpson for Savage, which isn’t too bad, but check out these other trades he’s proposed

    Danger in for CEY
    Crisp in for Gibson
    D.Smith in for Newman

    Big Stef in for Witts
    Brayshaw in for Tyson
    Caddy in for McLean (this one is the only seemingly fair trade)

    • Alan J

      June 5, 2018 at 1:35 pm

      Turns out “blocking” a trade doesn’t actually block it and this snake has managed to trade IN Simpson, Brayshaw, Big Stef, Danger, Crisp and D.Smith from his fake accounts..

      In a league with a 12 round draft, his entire team is now made up from the first 5..

      • Simon

        June 5, 2018 at 4:10 pm

        The only person he’s cheating is himself, Al

        • Alan J

          June 5, 2018 at 6:15 pm

          Decided to find the next best team and trade all my decent players to him in the hopes that he can field a better team than this other guys..

          I’m in a few draft leagues, so content to not partake in this one.

          • Rambo Tambo

            June 5, 2018 at 7:27 pm

            Haha good work! Playing the team game

  11. Corey

    June 5, 2018 at 10:44 am

    N. Coffield to L. Austin
    K. Mutch to P. Ahern
    J. Cunico to J. Westhoff or A. Brayshaw (MELB)

    • Shags

      June 5, 2018 at 11:47 am

      I personally think A.Brayshaw is must have. He is looking like this years Adams.
      Pure midfielder but classed as Def in AF.

      However if you are keen to have an amazing Bye structure get Westhoff.

  12. Brendan

    June 5, 2018 at 11:16 am

    Question re: the rolling 22. Is it the best 22 players as of right now or the best 22 at the seasons end? Im pretty sure it is of right now, but i would love to see a hybrid of the two like a who you think will be in the best 22 by the seasons end so helps with targeting blokes for each line.
    ie: Fyfe in this week’s rolling 22 is ‘out’ but that is just based on a poor showing last week so going on seasons form you would likely have him there at years end.. just a suggestion.

    • Shags

      June 5, 2018 at 11:53 am

      I think its top 22 loosely based on both according to Roy’s intuition mate.

      No one can truly tell who will be top 22 “by seasons end”. Some are obvious. Others are not.

  13. The Walrus

    June 5, 2018 at 11:41 am

    Who to bring in: Austin or Mihocek? Who to put out: Murray (if not playing) or Ridley?

    • Shags

      June 5, 2018 at 11:48 am

      Austin will gain cash real quick with such a low BE. If you need to squeeze extra cash for any reason go Mihocek.

  14. Peter

    June 5, 2018 at 11:58 am

    Is it worth getting Scott Jones hoping he plays r13 or is there no point

    • j

      June 5, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      If you have McInerney there already, getting in Jones is an option ahead of the round 13. No there’s point in doing in it now though, as you need to see him named first ahead of that bye (i.e., he has to hold his spot for two more games). McInerney could be traded out or swung forwards, to re-distribute the numbers of players missing in round 13.

    • Grovers Guns

      June 5, 2018 at 1:09 pm

      I think he will be lucky to play R12 let alone R13 with Sandy back this week

      He is unlucky as I would have him, Apeness and Jones all playing ruck, FF and resting but I am not flossing my teeth ATM

  15. j

    June 5, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    The bias for Sic dawg in the rolling 22 is obvious. Averaging 80, with a last 5 average of 96 but last three scores of 90 or less.

    Jack Crisp certainly should be in the rolling 22 ahead of Sicily & maybe even Kade Simpson: the guy’s averaging 93 for the season, with a 5-rolling average of 114!

    Also, Whitfield averaging 94, with only one score (70) out of the last 6 under 94. Better than Sicily.

    Tom Mcdonald’s last 5 average is also more than a few of the other defenders in the rolling 22. Better than Sicily.

    Roy clearly has biased man love for Sicily the same way he has for Rocky.

    • Grovers Guns

      June 5, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      Then follow your own advice instead of Roys opinion and get a leg up on Roy and his followers, if you think you are that right

  16. Anthony

    June 5, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    We should be able to use the loophole this week yea and its the best 18 that counts when score right

    • The Cricket

      June 5, 2018 at 4:03 pm

      Full lockout on Friday in Fantasy, so no captain’s loophole available!

      Partial lockouts start Round 13 (fantasy).

      Bye Rounds 12, 13 and 14 the highest 18 scores on your field count toward your score. Same emergency and captain rules apply.

  17. David

    June 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    What to do with third trade? Currently gone Mutch -> Ahern and Keefe -> Austin, and have 340k in the bank. Looking to upgrade Taranto to Macrae next week so not too keen to spend heaps of cash.

    • Ecd

      June 5, 2018 at 2:22 pm

      Look forward, Trade in someone like The Hoff who will be consistent over the byes

  18. plzanswerme

    June 5, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Who to field, robbie gray, or zgl

  19. Euman

    June 5, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    i only got 4 non playing round 12 so am going to target say Toby Mclean

  20. hijacker

    June 5, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    Some food for thought. Ben Ainsworth. $441K Suns FWD. After a highest score of 60 in the first six rounds, he has gone 90 70 92 84 after playing in the midfield more. He would be a great unique for the byes and you would hope for a 80 or 90 each round. Thoughts?

    • Mad Fish

      June 5, 2018 at 7:24 pm

      Don’t tempt me. Got Ah Chee a few weeks back thinking he would get more midfield time. Boy, was I wrong about that.

      Ainsworth is just really awkwardly priced and comes with a huge risk. Can he keep up that scoring?

  21. dale

    June 5, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Just got a question referring to the scoring in the upcoming byes. I’ve heard talk about how only the best 18 will score. Does this mean that even if i field 22, 4 of those players won’t add to my score? Please correct me if I’m wrong. cheers

    • Name (required)

      June 5, 2018 at 9:05 pm

      If you field 22, the four lowest scores will not count.

    • Nick

      June 5, 2018 at 9:14 pm

      Your score will only count the BEST 18 players from the round including emergencies who are counted from donuts on field, so no if you had all 22 players playing your 4 worst won’t count.

  22. E.J

    June 6, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    Hey fellas. Thoughts on these
    Mutch-aherm
    Murray-brayshaw(Mel)
    Doedee- Lloyd
    OR
    Same top two but Andrew brayshaw(freo) to Joel selwood
    OR
    Same top two and waterman to buddy or westhoff
    Cheers blokes
    Appreciated

  23. Fos

    June 7, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Which two to bring in for my 2nd and 3rd trades?

    Rocky and Austin

    or

    Giro and Westhoff

  24. Luxy

    June 7, 2018 at 8:47 am

    Dusty out :-(

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