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Giants v Lions NAB Cup Review

Our friend in the fine town of Wagga checked out the Giants v Lions game down at the local footy ground. He was our ‘roving reporter’ for the non televised game and had a few words to say for the DT Talk readers out there. Check them out now!


The 4th of 5 Saturday games in Round 2 of the NAB Cup saw Greater Western Sydney and Brisbane travel to the city of Wagga Wagga in NSW. Both teams fielded reasonably strong teams with only a few stars missing from each. After a see-sawing contest in which neither team could hold an advantage for long, the game boiled down to the last few minutes, when Brisbane rookie Sam Michael was awarded a contentious free kick and slotted the winning goal.

Onto the fantasy stuff!


Toby Greene

Greene started as the sub, but once subbed on in the 2nd quarter he made his impact felt around the contests, gathering the ball at will and delivering ball forward well. Contributed with a goal and a very handy 16 kicks for 83 DT points (from 3 qtrs remember). Well worth a spot in your mids, as he should improve on his 96 average from last season.

Lachie Whitfield

The #1 draft pick played his first game for the Giants as if it was his 50th. Looked very comfortable as an outside mid, receiving ball on breaks forward and feeding it inside 50. In addition to his 9 marks (a number of these great contested ones) and 12 kicks, I was impressed by his tackling intensity, racking up 4 for the night. As the top draft pick he does come at a decent premium, but after tonight’s showing, I’d put him on your watchlist.

Adam Treloar

As we know from his 2012 season, this kid has talent. He showed it off tonight being the Giant’s top scorer with 90 points. Treloar was playing right around the bounces, peeling off and delivering ball to Cameron and Patton up front, before resting forward and kicking 2 excellent snap goals. Based on tonight’s game, he could back up his 82 average from last season. However, most will agree there are more solid options in the $400-450K price bracket.

Jonathon Patton

Looked good early on, running hard and marking well, resulting in a single goal for the key forward. Still looks to be very much a developing player, but plenty of good signs. Sustained what appeared to be a quad injury late in the second quarter and was helped from the ground before being subbed off. Word came back later however it was just a cork, and appeared to be fine later on whilst using an exercise bike. His 24 points in the time he was on ground was encouraging, but based on this performance, it’s a pass.

Jonathan Giles

I knew there was a reason we rated this guy high enough in 2012 for him to stay in so many of our teams. With his 89 points, including a dominate 19 hit outs and 2 goals, Giles has reminded us that he’s still around. With a price point of $422,200 however, I don’t think he’ll be appearing in too many teams. Still, a good night at the office.

OTHER NOTABLE PLAYERS: Callan Ward (85), Devon Smith (76)



Tom Rockliff

To steal a most awesome quote from another DT Talk writer, “more like Tom Lockliff”. The guy is awesome. Started as sub (don’t read into it….just don’t) and appeared on ground early in 2nd half, heading straight to the mids! I went and grabbed a beer, chatted to a mate and suddenly he was on 30. Finished on 53 from less than a half of footy, which included a goal, a couple of tops contested marks and some tackles. The man is a gun, lock him in.

Brent Moloney

After putting out similar numbers to Rocky last weekend, many of us were waiting with baited breath to see what Moloney would do this week. Well, if you were hoping to see him secure a spot in your midfield, might need to see a little more of him. After 3 kicks, 7 handballs and a single tackle, he was subbed off at the half for 27 points. Unsure what I would do from here; the guy has proven talent, but for me I will be watching again next week before dropping him into my side for good.

Stefan Martin

A few requests came in via Twitter to keep an eye on him, and it wasn’t that hard. He’s a big unit! Here’s the positives: worked hard around the ball, ran to contests and presented reasonably well. Unfortunately here are the negatives: He was sh*t. Lost count of the number of times the ball came to him and he fumbled it, he missed shots/snaps on goal (4 in total) and had 5 frees against (that’s like Buddy on a bender). For $350K+ I think you want more than 22 points for most of the game. PASS.

Dayne Zorko

After this game I am going to petition the Oxford dictionary to include the word “mancrush” in the next edition with a picture of Dayne Zorko beside it. The reigning Golden Stubby holder went out there, gathered kicks (11), handballs (6), marks (7), tackles (5) and goals (2) on his way to a game high 96, in the process impregnating 3 men in the crowd just with his football skills. Seeing him first hand tonight has confirmed what most of us already knew: he is an excellent option up forward. LOCK.

Jack Redden

Overall an industrious night, with 20 disposals (13 kicks) but only 1 tackle (down on his usual output). Found lots of easy ball around the outside of the contest, and whilst he looked good in the first half he dropped of a bit in the 2nd (most probably due to Rockliff being subbed on).

Patrick Karnezis

Who? Oh that guy who got 26 possessions (13 kicks, 13 handballs) 4 marks and a goal on his way to 80 points. One RL Griffin told me earlier in the week to keep an eye on him tonight. Well well Griff, He was impressive. Spent much of his time on the wing, and ran through the middle at times too, also pushing into his traditional role as a forward where he scored that goal. Priced at $238,500 he is worth considering, although the competition is fierce (Varcoe, Byrnes etc). Will be watching closely.

Matthew Leuenberger

Now to the man who is locked in as the most selected ruck at this stage of pre-season. He has the potential to be great this year, but most of us are selecting him due to his tasty price of $233,600. Unfortunately for us DT boffins Berger was a starting sub and only came on the field around halfway through the 3rd quarter. Not a lot of time to show us how he has recovered from his season ending injury, and if indeed he is worth that cash we’re spending on him. From what I saw, he is. Looked strong enough in the ruck (even if Giles was having a blinder and looked better), but also was decent down forward, where he spent a lot of time. 25 points from a quarter and a bit, and I think he can do better than that given a full game. Still, I will be watching closely next week again.

OTHER NOTABLE PLAYERS: Claye Beams (68), Aaron Cornelius (94)

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  1. Fyfe4Lyfe

    March 3, 2013 at 12:56 am

    Thanks a lot Warnie and co.! So many dilemmas

    Patton is interesting, don’t know what to do with him. Maybe season-long bench player?

    Karnezis really coming into calculations now. Moloney gives me a selection headache…

    Can’t fit Zorko in. Upgrade target? Definitely!
    Greene as an M5 would be great but I want a balanced team.

    • tnargus

      March 3, 2013 at 8:19 am

      Based on his performance last night, I would say Patton is a watchlist player. Certainly looked great on a few occasions, marking strongly and leading well. However, seemed to tire and then that injury. So, I would wait and see.

      • Fyfe4Lyfe

        March 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm

        Cheers, fitness still a weakness I guess.

  2. Joke_R

    March 3, 2013 at 1:31 am

    Great summary. Zorko has been locked for a while, as has Berger. I think I’m willing to back in Moloney despite this performance. The main thing that worried me was how woeful the Lions looked. After looking amazing last weekend, I’m now not sure what to make of their prospects for 2013. Still, plenty of good DT options and I’ll certainly be having the Lions share of them (see what I did there).

    • Dream on!

      March 3, 2013 at 10:37 am

      Saw what you did there. Must say I was a little disappointed when I got an updated score saying we were 3 goals down at half time. However, that was without Rich, Black, Brown, Merrett, Patfull, Rockliff, Hanley, Raines, Staker, McGrath, Berger and others. Rocky and Hanley, plus Berger for a quarter, appeared to make a difference on the scoreboard thereafter.

  3. Brett

    March 3, 2013 at 7:37 am

    Any thoughts on how Hanley went?

    • tnargus

      March 3, 2013 at 8:15 am

      His work rate was pretty decent. Ran out of back half a number of times, also collecting some easy ball. Started as sub, and came on 2nd qtr.

  4. The Chosen Won

    March 3, 2013 at 7:51 am

    45 Points, Not sure how long he played thou.

    Good Luck

  5. tnargus

    March 3, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Thanks for the comments guys.

    One guy I should have dropped into the article was Sam Docherty. I have him in my side at the moment, and have for a while, but unsure after his performance last night. Gathered 43 points over the course of the night, which is fine but not inspiring. Seemed to roam free/be left alone for large parts of the game, but this didn’t get him any extra ball. Unlike other defenders Hanley and Adcock, he kind of waited for the ball to come to him, rather than looking to get into it. Honestly don’t know what to make of his game.

  6. RLGriffin

    March 3, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Great write up. I think I’m going to stay away from Moloney as i don’t want too many Lions, and Karnezis is pushing Byrnes out of my starting team. Rocky & Zorko up front will be Vertu popular this year.

    As for the Giants, Greene should have a season like K.Jack last year. Push a 100+ average and get some monster scores. If not in traditional teams, he’ll feature on many draft teams. Patton is still on the fence until better rookie forwards come along, maybe Neade? We should Getty to see Jaksch this week too.

    • Maverick86


      March 3, 2013 at 3:51 pm

      Greene is a stats machine, he seems to finish off games better than other Giants like Treloar who seems to start with a burst and fade a little. I’ve been tossing up between Greene and ROK but might have to try to fit them both in.

      Danger looked, well, Dangerous. I was worried about his form drop-off late last year but on yesterday’s form he is irresistible. He and Murphy fighting it out for a spot I reckon, tough call

  7. Big Feller

    March 3, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Cracker job tnargus!
    Loving that my chosen players are performing.

    • tnargus

      March 3, 2013 at 11:49 am

      Thanks mate!

  8. Edward

    March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Don’t know how to fit Zorko in! Are people thinking having him as F1 then rockliff as F2, or get like franklin in as well? But yes, lovely article and useful as always :)

    • Dyl pickle

      March 3, 2013 at 11:41 am

      I’m thinking of getting him for f2 with buddy f1 and rockliff f3

    • tnargus

      March 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      Presently I have Franklin, Rocky and Martin as premos, then Varcoe and Byrnes as mid-pricers. After Zorko’s efforts I am considering one of two things: 1) dropping a mid-pricer, and using cash from elsewhere to bring him in, or 2) giving Martin the heave-ho.

      He was very impressive.

      • Big Feller

        March 3, 2013 at 1:14 pm

        I have Zorko in the mids as my m5 with him being my final forward later in the season.
        I have MacAffer as my F6 and when it comes time to cull him I’ll switch Zorks into the fwd line and upgrade to a premo mid later.

        • tnargus

          March 3, 2013 at 7:07 pm

          Just came back to check comments. This is basically what I have done, but with Zork at M6 (Embley heave-ho). Good planning.

          • tnargus

            March 3, 2013 at 8:20 pm

            Wow, speaking of planning. Embley just got injured. Psychic.

  9. Dyl pickle

    March 3, 2013 at 11:40 am

    just can’t figure this one out so ill leave it up too you guys. chapman, bartel or zorko


    • tnargus

      March 3, 2013 at 11:48 am

      Seeing as Chappy went off injured yesterday, I’d think twice about him. Out of Bartel and Zorko, I would go Zorko.

    • Maverick86


      March 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      Yea for me chappy is still a bit of an injury worry. Think with rocky and dusty both locked and looking terrific and other good options like Stevie J(post rd1), Zorko, Buddy and Robinson in fwds that Chappie is an unnecessary risk

      I was really impressed with Smedts yesterday. Every time he went near the ball he did something good, finished with 80 points in shortened game and looked better than Varcoe who faded and Byrnes last week. Bit pricier than Varcoe Byrnes but may be good POD. Though there is the threat of a vest when Cats bring senior players back in, similar to Karnezis I reckon. Though if they keep playing like that they will avoid the dreaded vest

      • Maverick86


        March 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm

        *Smedts 87, not 80

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