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The Numb3rs – With the Cuz

I received a message from McRath on Friday “Hey man, im flat out this week, do you want to have a crack at the numbers??” Yeah, why not I thought. I shot him back a message, and gave him the good news. I mean it can’t be that hard could it?

I received a message from McRath on Friday “Hey man, im flat out this week, do you want to have a crack at the numbers??” Yeah, why not I thought. I shot him back a message, and gave him the good news. I mean it can’t be that hard could it?

Well believe you me after this weekend from hell (Read on, you will see why) I have a new found level of respect for our mate McRath! The numbers, they sometimes just don’t add up!! Tough gig this writing for DT Talk! Those that know me know I’m a fanatical Richmond Supporter, so it’s safe to say it is going to be a pretty angry view of the numbers!!

4 – The number of wins Gold Coast Suns has had in their history. Considering they have played in 37 games, that’s not a great return. Also considering 2 out of 4 wins have been at the demise of the Tigers, officially makes Richmond their bunnies.

90 – The number of degrees Leigh Adams arm was twisted up behind his back by Chris Judd. I hear this was to stop him from trying to get a handball away. Makes sense to me! Ninja Judd was in true form on Friday night, with his history of pressure points and now chicken wings I believe that he deserves 2 weeks sitting in the grandstands. I am scratching my head as to how the match review panel will view it. Is there actually a rule in the AFL that states the Chicken Wing is illegal? Ill you the commenter’s answer that one. I just wish you could buy chicken wings at the game with some tangy BBQ sauce! (How good would that be!!?)

7 – The Number of snags Drew Petrie kicked up until ¾ time. Sitting on 113 DT points to this stage and ripping Carlton a new one, I was shocked when I saw him benched and red vested. There is something magical about a player kicking goals into the double digits, and Petrie looked mighty pissed that he was not getting the opportunity to on the big show of Friday night football. Let’s hope it’s not an injury that will see him miss the Richmond match this week.

113 – The average losing margin for the GWS in its last four games. I went back 4 weeks to give it some respectability as well. The average losing margin for them in their last 2 matches is 140 points. At this rate, GWS are likely to finish with a worse record than Gold Coast did, and that will surprise many considering the comparisons that were being made earlier in the year. Is GWS really further progressed than the Suns were at the same stage?? Line ball I reckon.

5 – Number of players according to fan footy on the weekend that will fall under suspicion of the MRP. All fantasy relevant really for many as well. With the exception of me as I don’t have any of these guys. I reckon a few of you do though! Fingers crossed you have cover if you have any of them!! Jack Ziebell, Chris Judd, Heath Scotland, Trent Cotchin & Shaun Burgoyne. Ziebell and Judd are the most likely to cop sanctions, and 2 weeks each sounds about right.

142 – Ryan O’Keefes score on the weekend!! How many people have this guy, who was one of the first picked 2 years ago and looks to be in the best form of his career now? ROK is back and will be considered by quite a few I would imagine…If you have trades to burn!! Has averaged 108 in his last 5 and owned by only 3.29% of teams. You could do worse trading him in!! Ill be having a close look too

40,556 – The number of owners of Ivan Maric who would be cursing Damien Hardwick right now. Add to that the actual Richmond supporters and your looking at more like 100,000 people in Australia that would love to have a little word to Dimma about his balls up idea of resting the Big Croatian Mullet. I’m nervous even thinking that this will be made public, and he may actually read it, so im going to take it easy on this one.

0 – The number of people who would actual have the balls to actually say something to Dimmas face about resting Maric. Between Him, and the Scott brothers, there are few more fearsome sights in AFL than when the vain in the side of their necks start to pop out of their skin…..Its a sure sign to get out before you get hurt!

2 – The number of premiums due back from suspension this week. Those of you who sat on BJ and Dusty will be hoping for some massive bounce back scores this week, whilst everyone else hopes the opposite! Im in the “Hope they Kill it” bandwagon seeing as I still have both.

81 – DT Talks own Tom Rockliff’s score this week. This brings him to 2 games in a row where he has not tonned up. Historically in 2012, he has had 2 double digit games in a row 3 times this year, and each time bounced back tonning up with a 143, then a 125, then a 141. When Rockys back, he goes big. So for the 5.96% of teams who have him, I hope he goes big this weekend continues the trend!!

Whore of the Week

Dayne Beams gets the goodies this week for whore of the week. There was much to like about his 137 point game against the Cats. What’s most significant from this particular game, is that he is still scored this score with both Pendle’s and Swanny eating into his midfield time. I would be loading the cash into his account rather than Clokes if I was the pies.

The Roundup

Highlights: As mentioned previously, Ryan O’Keefe was sensational against the Eagles. High props to young Richmond gun Trent Cotchin who was one of only 3 or 4 Tigers who could hold his head up high after the disaster that occurred to their season up in Cairns. He went head to head with Ablett and took the chocolates with a 38 disposal 137 point game. Lock him in for the 3 Brownlow votes now. Special mention to Drew Petrie & The Kangaroos in general. Playing attractive to watch footy for the first time in a long time. Could upset a few if they make the 8 based on recent form.

Lowlights: Richmonds finals chances imploding (on a personal level that one, apologies to my neighbours who would have heard the long list of obscenities being thrown directly at my television.). Judd’s Chicken Wing, Broughtons Subbing, Sucklings Sucking, the list could go on.

Team Cousins Coke n Ice:  This is the worst week ever I could have been asked to do this write up. Not only do I bear witness to being #Khunted by GC in real footy, My fantasy Football side could not have spudded up any worse. Let me paint the picture. I have the following players. Goddard, Broughton, Suckling (traded in this week for Waters), Maric, Franklin & Martin. Broughton was subbed off for after an error in the backline cost Freo a goal, and Ross Lyon decided that that was a bad enough offense to sub him off, just as they had bought him into the midfield. 36 points. F Me!!!! The rest is self explanatory. I scored only 2086 points which leaves me languishing at 2575 overall. One of the worst weeks ever for me personally!

That’s it from me today guys, I hope you enjoyed my version of the numbers, and Im sure McRath will be ready to fire on all cylinders again next week!

Good luck for the rest of the year in your DT.


The Cuz. (@douthteez in the old twitterverse.)



  1. crouchy35

    July 17, 2012 at 6:54 am

    Ohhhhh Greggy B…… Where do we go now?

    How does that old line go? F*** you Ross Lion? Yea thats it.

  2. Ryan

    July 17, 2012 at 7:12 am


  3. Pettiger

    July 17, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Thanks Cuz. As a Maric owner and Tigers supporter I am one of the many thousands extremely unhappy with Maric being out. Bad call.

  4. Dave

    July 17, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Scotland and Burgoyne to be reviewed by MRP? Didnt see the games but nothing from the MRP or AFL match reports, what gives?

    • Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

      July 17, 2012 at 8:30 am

      Hey Dave, this was written up over the weekend, and according to Fan Footy, there was a chance they could have been cited. Thankfully they were not!

      • RLGriffin

        July 17, 2012 at 10:04 am

        Nice write up mate. And don’t worry, it is hard to continue to have up-to-date information for the masses here on DTTALK, as we have jobs/family commitments, and don’t do this sort of thing for a living, just a hobby. Well done on your first numbers, and look forward to seeing more from you in the future.

        • Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

          July 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

          Thanks Griff. Was a bit of fun putting them together. It’s amazing how difficult it is coming up with numbers! Took quite a bit longer than I thought it would. Having up to date info is nearly impossible, and I’m sure most people recognize that. All the writers for DT talk do an amazing job. Happy to help out with a chop out if your all a little bit busy (if I have the time!).

      • Dave

        July 17, 2012 at 12:52 pm

        All good, Thanks!

  5. Ridley U

    July 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Great stuff Douth!

    Bloody tough times for us Tiger supporters but I know we will bounce back this week. I also wont be surprised if one Dustin Martin is the whore of the week next week.

    2 – the number of times the Tigers will be playing the Gold Coast next year. The AFL needs to be acting now. Gold Coast v Tigers could actually be a winner for the AFL so they need to be cashing in on this next year.

    As much as I am pissed off about the result, I could not possibly be happier for Hunt.The lad has copped a lot of crap over the past 18 months. Well done Hunt you bastard!

    PS: Can people please stop with the 9th jokes already…. you guys are 3 years too late. Last 3 years Tigers have finished 15th, 15th and 12th. All us Tiger supporters know this as we wished we were good enough to finish 9th the past few years. The baton has been passed on to North these days ;-)

    • Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

      July 17, 2012 at 9:57 am

      Cheers Ridley!

      I agree with you on the fact Richmond should play the gold coast twic next year.. There is a definate rivalry starting to evolve there, I’m just worried it would be another 2 losses we will have to deal with! Remember, it will be their 3rd season, and they will be even more competitive next year!!!

      I personally think Dimma stuffed up at selection on this one. When I heard Maric was out, I looked at the team and it dawned on me that we had a weaker team last week than we had when we lost to them last year! The writing was on the wall before the ball bounced! If Angus Graham gets another game for the tigers, I promise you we will lose those games. Big Gus is a hard worker, but the AFL level is a little to hard for him IMO.

      On a side note, I hope Dusty sat there watching the game and felt the pain of losing the 4 points. I hope he sat there and thought “ive cost the team this week”. Hopefully it ignights a fire that will see him rip games apart for the rest of the year! North would be a little worried this week as they face the wounded tigers!

      • Ridley U

        July 17, 2012 at 10:29 am

        I agree totally mate with the Maric call although to be honest I still thought we would win comfortably enough without him. Just before the bounce I was chatting to another of the famous Tigermen in DT Land, Sauce and we were saying that Gus might have been playing to show the Gold Coast his wear for next year to replace Fraser! Unfortunately though his performance means that the Albury Tigers seconds would probably lose interest in him.

        I trust in Dimma. I loved the pain that guys like Lids, Cotch, Newman, Jack etc showed after the game. Beware a wounded Tiger.

        • Big Feller

          July 17, 2012 at 10:51 am

          The problem with Dusty is he could just as easily think they can’t win without him and he’ll end up getting a bigger head because of it!

          • Ridley U

            July 17, 2012 at 10:58 am

            Not with Dimma mate.

            I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near Dimma or Newman this week if I was Dusty!

    • Waltzing Matera

      July 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      12th is the new 9th….

  6. Shazzam

    July 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Pick one last upgrade for me.

    Mitchell, Thompson, Rockcliff, Redden, Ebert, Cotchin, Stanton x, Watson x. (x = i don’t do bombers) Chappy, Pav, ROK, Murphy, J.Lewis, Dangerfield, Whitecross, Goodes.

    I am thinking the obvious choice will be Mitchell followed by Thompson. As I have never had either I am leaning towards Mitchell. This will also be my first year with out Chappy.

    • Shazzam

      July 17, 2012 at 9:53 am

      Who to lose? 5fer or Treloar.

    • SloppyJoe

      July 17, 2012 at 10:03 am

      Can’t go past Murphy for value and reliability I reckon

      • Shazzam

        July 17, 2012 at 11:41 am

        Even over Mitchell?

        Didn’t see Murphy’s game. He looked ok? Likely be the #1 go to for taggers for the next few weeks….and even when the arm wrestler returns. Still good idea though.

      • Slappers


        July 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm

        i would go mitchell..

        • Just Go Bang!

          July 17, 2012 at 5:48 pm

          Thompson, then Mitchell for mine…

  7. RLGriffin

    July 17, 2012 at 10:02 am

    On the GWS vs GCS comparisons.
    I think the significant difference is the mature players GWS were chasing, compared to the Suns, that is makig the difference in the back half of the year. The Giants wanted up-and-comers, who will tire taking the lead, whereas the Suns wanted established players, who are more used to it.

    Bock v Davis
    Ablett v Scully
    Risky v Ward

    The biggest issue for the Giants is the lack of pre-season training for the majority of the squad, combined with the massive amount of travelling they have done. The team is very tired, and this year was always a write off; looking at who is the best talent and who can play where, more than, let’s snag four points against them, and lie down against them. Finishing last vs second or third from bottom makes no difference long term.

    GWS really need to hit up the 25/26 year olds this season, and mostly in the Ruck, Backline and Guts. The forward lin has lots of potential, and o’hAilpin should be resigned (IMO) to help provide that mature body. They need one solid midfielder who can just work all day (Boak, Beams, etc ) with a rebounding, and stay at home defender needed (the likes of Goddard/Firrioto), and obviously a strong ruck (Warnock, West, etc).

    As a fan it is hard to watch the young kids getting smashed left, right and centre lately, but if you were to only watch the first quarters from every match this year, you would think they are playing exceptional football.

    #5 – The number of years until GWS are making a serious tilt for a top 4 spot.

    • crouchy35

      July 17, 2012 at 10:48 am

      Great analysis there Griff!

      I think GCS definitely had the best first year. GWS have toiled with resting players and it is difficult to assess what affect this has had on their individual and team performances.

      Watching the Crows/GWS game on Sunday, it became very obvious that the GWS young guns are not quite up to it. Treloar for example was fierce with his attack on the ball in the first half and in the second he was barely sighted and often caught 10 or 15 metres off the play.

      Where GWS can improve next year is by learning from where GCS have gone wrong. They need to continue to bolster their side and encourage their team to play with confidence. GCS have tried to change the way they play and it has come at a cost.

    • Austin Pwrz

      July 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm

      Fair enough analysis from a GWS supporter Griff. I enjoy the way they play and think in 2-4 years the mature bodied team will be a force to contend with for a sustained period of time!

  8. Sean

    July 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Can somebody tell me the BE of Bacher Houli. Need him to go down $300 and go Townsend to Houli
    Cheers in advance

    • joseph

      July 17, 2012 at 10:36 am

      he won’t go under 300k, his BE is 30

    • Ridley U

      July 17, 2012 at 10:44 am

      He bottomed out last week. Will just keep going up in value from now on.

      Newman is the Tiger to get this week mate.

      • Sean

        July 17, 2012 at 12:03 pm

        Joseph I mean Townsend ($180,300) + My Remaining Salary ($149,500) = $329,800
        Houli is priced at $330,300 meaning I am $200 off getting him in.

        Cheers for that Ridley and have done the trade but might reverse it, see how it goes

  9. Big Feller

    July 17, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Great write up Cuz and you’ve provided awesome cover off the bench for McRath who is busily working away on the “second gunman on the grassy knoll” defence for Juddy tonight!
    Might need to upgrade the picture to Ben “Scarface” Cousins – say hello to my little friend!

  10. discomute

    July 17, 2012 at 11:14 am

    2 weeks for Judd? He in your DT or something?? Considering he maliciously tried to end some kids career I would think 4 weeks should be minimum.

    • discomute

      July 17, 2012 at 11:32 am

      PS. I has all those players you named too, plus waters. Oh, and I traded out Giles In Maric lol

  11. macgic

    July 17, 2012 at 11:47 am

    This is doing my head in, I am honestly going to flip a coin between Jacobs and Mcevoy. I am leaning towards Jacobs. The cows run home is just too easy. Thoughts?

    • Aidan

      July 17, 2012 at 11:48 am


      • Austin Pwrz

        July 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm

        Cows don’t run home very fast, perhaps look at the Crow steam instead…

  12. Aidan

    July 17, 2012 at 11:48 am

    6 trades left
    next week
    down grade big o for josh hall
    down grade jackson paine for tom couch
    week after upgrade porplyzia or hawkins to beams

    trades for finals

    back complete
    mid complete
    ruck incomplete (giles 2nd ruck trade him premium later
    fwd complete after trades

    • Daniel

      July 17, 2012 at 2:28 pm

      your teams far from complete son (MATTHEW LODGE!!!!!)

  13. Ironmike

    July 17, 2012 at 11:58 am

    48 – the number of $$$ K Hunt won for me from sportsbet when he kicked the goal to make the suns win the game, I owe that man a beer

  14. Sean

    July 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Joseph I mean Townsend ($180,300) + My Remaining Salary ($149,500) = $329,800
    Houli is priced at $330,300 meaning I am $200 off getting him in.

    Cheers for that Ridley and have done the trade but might reverse it, see how it goes

  15. Antipasto

    July 17, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Morabito out for the year, first picked next year!

    • Blue boys

      July 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      With his injury record, he might be first picked in 2014.
      Pretty sure he won’t play next year because of injuries!!! ;-)

    • Flying_High

      July 17, 2012 at 4:21 pm


  16. Jerome

    July 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Sam colqhoun from SA should be looked at by many afl teams this year come draft time as well as jack martin from WA, both are looking at a spot in my side next year. As well as many of the SA boys who looked promising in their games

    • Ridley U

      July 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      Jack Martin is not able to play next year as he is too young. He will be the number 1 pick in the mini draft.

      Colqhoun is very slight in frame and may not get many games next year.

      The guys you should be looking at are Kennedy, Daniher, Toumpas, Hrovat, Whitfiled, Wines and Grundy.

      • Ridley U

        July 17, 2012 at 1:49 pm


  17. Slappers


    July 17, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    2 – number of week waters could be back in

    • Shazzam

      July 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm

      Hell yeah! Even with no proof I’m with ya on that.

      • Slappers


        July 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm

        ha ha… was on the 7 news last night

        • discomute

          July 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm

          Oh yeah? I didn’t trade him because Giles was omitted… Hmmm

  18. esuba77

    July 17, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    great read,
    With Rocky playing the Suns this week i’ll lock him in for the big C now.

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