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The Friday Scramble: Round 16

Once again we have been dealt a few rubbish cards this week. More stars out of the game this week with Ryder, Buddy and Waters being struck down with multiple week injuries this week. But….. we have been waiting for it all year… COUCHY is finally here! Does that help your scrambling??

Another week… More Carnage!  However, are we throwing the term Carnage around a bit too much this year?  Well probably.  Things don’t seem to be too much different from week to week, it is just the names that change, so from an individual team point of view it may seem like carnage but it is just the competition evening itself out.

So what have we been hit with this week?  Well the key ones are…

  • Beau Waters – out for 3-5
  • Buddy Franklin – out for 3
  • Paddy Ryder – out for 3-4
  • Nathan Foley – out for season
  • Marley Williams – out for season
  • Jimmy Bartel – Suspended for 2 weeks

There, I think that they are the main ones, and that is just the news from this week!  Let alone the fact that we are still without Brendon Goddard and Dusty Martin for one more week!  The only good news on the teamsheet was the welcome returns of Scott Pendlebury and Marc Murphy from injury this week.  Whilst a lot of people held Pendles, no one (in their right mind) would have held Murphy and given he has a BE over 200 I would hope no one is considering picking him up today either!

I don’t reckon there will be many coaches that have avoided all of this carnage this week but hopefully you all have cover!  At least the coaches heard our cries and brought some cover in for us this week like Redden, Couch and Aaron Hall.

I reckon that there are going to be a lot of DT Coaches that are going to have their bench cover tested again this week.

It was only a matter of time….

We all knew it would end in tears and we all expected it and that is why many of us stayed away and cursed every great score he put up.  But our old buddy Beau Waters finally delivered us an injury.  Personally I considered him a while back and ended up going with Heppell so I am in my own world of hurt with no excuse to trade!  However, many who have had Waters and have reaped the rewards of his great season are now stuck with the dilema of what to do with him.  Really it isn’t a dilema, just a choice.  Keep or Trade.

Once again, and as every decision is at this time of year, it comes down to trades remaining and the position your team is in.  If you are going for the car, then of course you have to trade.  However, if you are in it for the league win and you are cemented in the top 8 or even better top 4, then you could probably get away with keeping him (depending on your matchups over the last 4 rounds).

The big plus in regards to trading him is that he is priced at $450k so you can pretty much trade him for most defenders.  Favourites that I have heard around the place are Birchall, Suckling, Carrazzo and Scotland.

 The General Cometh….

Yet again we saw the General pay us a visit on the weekend with Stevie J just heading to the Gold Coast to hit the theme parks really!  I am fairly sure that there was never any thought of him actually hitting the park.  This caused a lot of donuts in the DT world!  As we draw closer to finals and teams start to become locked away in the top 4 and 8 we will find that the General will visit more regularly and we may find that our stars start to get themselves in a Red Vest!

Just keep a look out when your players are up against GWS or Gold Coast.  We all know what the Hawks did last year when they rested their stars in the last round.  This time around we have Adelaide up against Gold Coast in the last round and it is the Kangas that are up against GWS.  Can’t see the Kangas doing any resting because they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 but Adelaide may be in a position to rest.

There isn’t much that you can do about a red vest, but you can about the General.  Whilst you are “Finalising your team” (is there ever such a thing as a completed team?) you need to make sure that the guys on your bench aren’t just the cheapest dude you could find who is lucky to get a game in the Magoos, but is a guy that is going to get a game week in and week out.  They may not be the best scorer in the world, but if it means that you will escape a donut then it is better to have a 15 than a 0.  Heaps of games are won by less.  So far this year I have won 2 games by less than 5 and lost one by 3.

 Thanks Neeldy!   ….. FOR NOTHING!

Well finally… our mate Tom Couch has been named for his first game.  Whilst this is great for the kid and for Melbourne, but it has STUFFED US DT COACHES AROUND!!!  Not only did a lot of people punt on him getting a game early after he was elevated to the list and then have subsequently traded him out for no gain or a loss.  If he plays too much this year it will stuff his price for next season!  The prefered scenario is for him not to play and then be a rookie price again next year, come out and smash it from round 1 and be one of our best cash cows of the sesaon!

Having said that, if you held him, well done, but I am sure you are probably struggling by now in the overall standings, hopefully your leagues are going well as you would have needed this position to be scoring for you through the MBR’s.  I reckon though that he is a big chance for the Sub marine to pay a visit to him.  If not first up, he would be a big chance for a Red Vest.

Good Luck Tom!  Just don’t overdo it on the scoring so that we can have you at a cheap price next year.


As the news broke across the twitterverse early this week that Chook was hanging up his binoculars and TAC Cup Guide, many a tear was shed as we came to the realisation that one of the greatest talent spotters of our time was giving it all away.

Each week he toiled just so that we could have great Cash Cows and Benches full of playing youngsters.  He gave so much yet asked so little.   So I say, good luck in your retirement chook.  Enjoy and keep Merv Gray Autos up the top of the leaderboards.

Things to Remember

  •  DT is a Marathon not a Sprint -But the finish line is just around the bend so if you have someone out for 4 weeks+ you need to trade their sorry a#$ out of your team!
  • Take your league position and overall aims into account before trading– No point trading just to fill a one week donut at this point unless it is the last round before finals and you need to get into the 8.
  • Chook is a bloody legend – and don’t you forget it!
  • Keep your eye out today for late changes! – I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few of them out there this afternoon!  Thankfully Essendon were honest this week by telling us that Paddy was out not like they did with Zaha.
  • Don’t be too demanding on Murph and Pendles – These guys are coming back from a fair time on the sidelines and may not be right back in the cut and thrust!  Just remember how Goodesy was when he came back a couple of weeks ago.

A Massive week in DT where we lost some stars and gained a Rook we thought had gone for the year.  Just be wary with your trades now that most are getting down to being able to count them on one hand.  If you don’t need to trade it would be better to save them for finals than use them now to get a handfull of points.

Have a great Friday and weekend of DT’ing.  Catch me on Twitter to find out any late news I hear about @pkd73 or even just random stuff like last weekend when my lawnmower fell apart whilst mowing!



  1. Brodie94

    July 13, 2012 at 6:20 am



      July 13, 2012 at 6:35 am

      What a fag. I’m also guessing your team’s

  2. chappalenkoubeauty

    July 13, 2012 at 6:44 am

    Well, we all have bloody strong benches this week. My score seems to hover about 50 points below the top 5k mean published here Sundays. Last week 2106 saw me rise 90 spots tho so still heading in the right direction.

    Not trading, got bench cover in Couch, Kreuz on for Ryder, Gibson and Broughton.

    Putting the C on Gaz. The difference bn his score and a monster last week was simply a few missed shots at goal. If he kicks them this week, hello 150. I do have Treloar and Dickson onground but saving trades atm.

    5 trades left ranked about 8800. Gunna sit tight for the next couple, wait for Pendles or Murph to drop perhaps.

    • Dunny

      July 13, 2012 at 6:51 am

      Reckon you have a good plan there. I would not be trading if I had good cover for Ryder. I only have Redden and I just don’t think I can wear 4 weeks of his scores, if he even plays after this week.

  3. Shazzam

    July 13, 2012 at 8:01 am

    My thinking is that Waters is gone for the rest of the ‘DT’ season. Would I be correct in saying that?

    If so the choice is easy for me.
    Waters – Birchall

    • Dunny

      July 13, 2012 at 8:09 am

      Gone til DT Finals at least. If you have enough trades then Waters to Birch is a solid move.

      • Shazzam

        July 13, 2012 at 8:27 am

        Waters – Birchall

        7 trades left.

        • Shazzam

          July 13, 2012 at 8:39 am

          Wait hang on, so if I am a very good chance for the finals then I should actually hold waters?

          • Shazzam

            July 13, 2012 at 8:50 am


            T. Adams – Baguley
            Bugg – Birchall

            Leaves me with 126k and Waters and Goddard on Bench.

          • Shazzam

            July 13, 2012 at 8:58 am

            Cop a donut in the backs and bring in Maric or trade cover the donut and keep Redden/Giles?

  4. Shazzam

    July 13, 2012 at 8:26 am

    So the rookie selections have broken the one, the only, the Chook!

    Where abouts did he announce this? I wanna read.

    I bet it was the announcement of Couch that did it.

  5. redcan

    July 13, 2012 at 8:57 am

    I have downgraded Aaron hall so I can get in goodes this week, who should I get Couch or McIntyre? Gonna be last bench spot in forward line

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 10:30 am

      Couch i recon, cos once tex walker and callinan are back i recon mcintyre will disappear

  6. Pettiger

    July 13, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Nice one Dunny. Yes, I have Ryder, who I traded in for Hmac, who I traded in for Berger. Not trading yet as I am happy to take Redden’s score at this time. Like most I also have Buddy and Dustin – thank goodness Hall came back.

  7. The Plagiarist

    July 13, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Nice article Dunny. Always a great pathway to a discussion of the weekend’s main issues. And may I add my thanks to Chook for his work over the years and wish him well in his ‘retirement’.

    But I cant cant resist the opportunity to answer your opening question. The overuse and misuse of ‘Carnage’ is starting to get right up my pedantic little nose.

    The Thirty Years war in Europe with many dead and accompanying plague, famine and economic ruin was genuine carnage. In professional sport omissions due to injury, suspension or loss of form are just everyday and largely predicatble commonplaces. I enjoy an interested community such as that surrounding DT Talk developing its own lexicon but could we make some effort to use these terms with at least a passing nod to their dictionary definition. Thank You.

    • Sloth

      July 13, 2012 at 10:21 am

      I would be interested in starting a community that developed its own lexicon to describe you being a ‘i’m smarter than you, d*ckhead’. Go post this crap on a forum where people care about being smarter than each other. W*nker.

      • Recall

        July 13, 2012 at 10:33 am

        +1 possibly the best reply I’ve seen on this site

        • morgs10

          July 13, 2012 at 11:11 am

          lol idiot

        • Brappinalong

          July 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm


      • The Plagiarist

        July 13, 2012 at 11:16 am

        Damn it! The tone I was aiming for was respectful/polite but having reread my post I agree it was more smartarse/knobhead. Sorry to have peed you off Sloth. And I certainly don’t think i’m smarter than anyone else.

        • Flying_High

          July 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm

          I hate trying to get tone across through messages. I have got in serious trouble because people haven’t picked up my sarcasm.

          • HirscHirscH

            July 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm

            Try working with people who don’t get your vocal sarcasm.

    • Shazzam

      July 13, 2012 at 11:06 am

      His name is somewhat appropriate.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      Oh boy. I hopy The Plagiarist doesn’t read Hot and Cold. The amount ‘struggle’s would probably make him/her (let’s be honest it’s probably a him but I have to be all PC) implode.

  8. HirscHirscH

    July 13, 2012 at 10:13 am

    First time I’ve made a team post but here it is. Bear in mind I’m saving trades for the finals to muster a league win! Couldn’t care less about ranking hence keeping Waters, unless he dies in his sleep.

    I went Bugg to Goodes already this week (to cover a donut), leaving me with 7 trades and $150k remaining.

    DEF: Deledio, Broughton, Heppell, Carazzo, Drummond, Smedts, Morris* (Waters, Goddard)

    MIDS: Boyd, Ablett, Thompson, Selwood, Pendlebury, Priddis (McDonald, Williams*)

    RUCK: Maric, Giles (Redden*, Campbell)

    FWD: Sidebottom, Chapman, Danger, Cloke, Lewis, Goodes, Zorko (Trelour, D. Martin)

    *Means they are planned to be upgraded for or during finals. Although I pending LTI’s this may change!

    I see heaps of promising rookies coming through in coming weeks, so will use that to downgrade Williams to a FWD to give me some flexibility. Still unsure about who to upgrade Redden to, hoepfully he builds another $60k in the coming weeks. Thinking Cox, and hoping he might deflate in value for a few weeks being stuck deep FWD until Lynch and McInness free him up.

    • Waffles

      July 13, 2012 at 10:21 am

      7 trades it wouldn’t be a bad idea to go waters to birch pocket 30k and next week go Morris to some premium.

      • Waffles

        July 13, 2012 at 10:22 am

        Leaving Smedts and Drummond as solid bench cover for the year.

    • Ridley U

      July 13, 2012 at 11:44 am

      Not a bad team.

      I would use other trade this week just to shore things up. My suggestion would be Treloar out, Smedts to the forward line and then bring in Michael Johnson. This will do 2 things for your team. Firstly, provide extra cover while Waters is out, and secondly, give you an additional DPP link form forwards to the backs. Drummond will be a perfect fit as D8 cover if he stays on the park when Waters is back.

      Just a thought.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm

      Thanks Waffles. I agree it would be a good idea, but I want to take a punt with Waters as I see him becoming a bit of a unique for the finals with everyone trading him out, and I do think that we will only miss 3.

      Not a bad idea at all Riddles, I’m a big fan of MJ as a bit of a quiet acheiver. I should win comfortably this week so will hold on though. But perhaps Williams to MJ via moving Trelour onto the MID Bench? This will give me a Smedts to MJ rotation as well as a MID/FWD link.

      MJ may go up $10k next week, but still worth the extra week to decide should the Great Carnage of 2012 continue into round 16.

      Right back to work!

    • deez go

      July 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm

      Gee, for league win that is a pretty good team, but I would do what Waffles said except going Bugg to a premium, as well as Waters to Birchall. Completed Backline when Goddard is back, and still a completed forward line if keeping Zorko. Leaving 6 trades to complete ruck and for Long Term Injuries. But what would I know?

      • HirscHirscH

        July 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm

        Haha. I think every comment on here should have the disclaimer ‘what would I know?’ on the end!
        Yeah I agree the backline is weak and is top priority to upgrade. But not until next week.

        The DT final is still 8 rounds away. Yikes/gosh/OMG/whoa!

  9. morgs10

    July 13, 2012 at 10:26 am

    7 Trades left going for league win, sitting first

    Option 1. Waters to Birchall

    Option 2. Waters to M.Johnson, Treloar to Goodes

    Option 3. Waters to Suckling, Treloar to Sylvia


    • Waffles

      July 13, 2012 at 10:28 am

      Option.2 bases on the fact Goodes over Sylvia is a big pod.

      • IanB

        July 13, 2012 at 11:44 am

        +1 – never pick Sylvia !!!

  10. brad_86

    July 13, 2012 at 10:30 am

    I have gone from being stressed about having donuts/no bench cover to needing to decide who to play.

    Which options are the best?

    Sam Shaw v Darley

    Treloar v Hall

    Probably thinking Shaw and Treloar but bit of a raffle really.

    Thoughts appreciated.

    • Waffles

      July 13, 2012 at 10:37 am

      Darley Treloar Sam Shaw might get 60 but really high risk little reward to go shaw so Darley easy ;) hope that helps.

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 10:40 am

      Yeaa i recon shaw and treloar because they have a higher ceiling and are more reliable

      • Waffles

        July 13, 2012 at 11:03 am

        More reliable you are joking right shaw has had 30 19 67 68 74 Darley has had like 60 every week.

        • Jerome

          July 13, 2012 at 11:56 am

          …………………i have been ashamed :( LOL

          • Antipasto

            July 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

            Hardly. You should only listen to those who can count past 10 with their shoes on.

            Shaw has had 59, 78, 69, 21, 32, 74

            While not as consistent as Darley’s 64, 42, 66, 68, 68 – Shaw does have a higher ceiling, and Adelaide should smash GWS, and potential vest premo’s once the game is won, therefore giving the lesser lights a crack. I’d punt on Shaw over Darley

          • Waffles

            July 13, 2012 at 4:00 pm

            Mate dont dothe research

          • Waffles

            July 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm

            Mate no need for the smartass response yes I was wrong but was just aiming to get around there…lol.

          • Waffles

            July 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm

            Did I say 60 every game sorry forgot to say when he was sub lol

  11. graham allen

    July 13, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Traded out goddard last week for waters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! special mention to franklin and martin FMDT

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:28 pm

      Oh you traded out a premium after he was listed as being suspended for 2 weeks?

      Please, tell me more about how we should give you sympathy….

      • Brappinalong

        July 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm

        Rookie error…..

  12. Jerome

    July 13, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Ahh so goood, so many rookies in this round, and murdoch out which means i could get him in next week if he plays or tom couch

    • IanB

      July 13, 2012 at 11:47 am

      I reckon Couch and Magner will basically share the 1 position. If one comes in, surely the other goes out. With 8 rounds left, Couch surely gets 4.

      • deez go

        July 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm

        Magner provides strength and does negate an opponent, but Couch would play a Half Forward/Midfield role. I doubt the Dees would want Couch trying to tag a defender with no real experience in stopping an opponent, and Couch may provide a tad more run to the side.

  13. fryzie

    July 13, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Somebody talk me out of bringing Yarran in… I think trading Hargrave to Waters before lockout last week has broken my common sense trading brain functions.

    • Ridley U

      July 13, 2012 at 11:46 am

      Yarran is a bargain at his current price. The only problem I can forsee with him is his turf toe issue.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm

      I normally love talking people out of trades, but to be honest he’s back. Listed at HB and looks like he’s showing Carlton that he’s a genuine first XVIIIer

    • fryzie

      July 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      Don’t enable my bad trading behaviour! You people sicken me!

      Welcome aboard Chris Yarran, please continue your good form, avoid getting tagged and most importantly, please do not get injured.

  14. Daniel

    July 13, 2012 at 11:29 am

    I’m in alot of trouble my current rucks are Ryder, Giles with (Jenkins, Campbell)
    Giles is named on a extended interchange bench so unsure whether hes in or out?
    Ryders obviously gone down with a 4 week calf strain
    and Jenkins Has been also placed on the dreaded 7-man interchange bench
    Campbell Has been dropped this which sucks,

    i have exactly $100,000 with 7 trades?

    • Serenity Now

      July 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      Ryder is out for 3-4 so I would offload. I am offloading Giles this week before he loses more money and depending on how many trades you need for the rest of your team I would get rid of him this week too.

      Cox is a no brainer but will mean you need a cheaper option also. I like McEvoy I think he is ready to find last years form, I also think Hille will do well with Ryder out, but his ability to stay on the park is questionable.

      • We Got Big Cox

        July 13, 2012 at 12:25 pm


        gotta get rid of ryder.
        no one successfully rushes a big man back in.
        they seem to not cope with injury niggles on their return, i.e. sandi.

        also, he might have a 4 week injury, but dont be suprised if bellchambers cements their spot in the dons 22 by then. especially on the run in to finals, could be risky playing a ruckman that hasnt touched a footy in 4 weeks.

    • Aidan

      July 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      what happened to old mac -> goodes bogs??

      • Daniel

        July 13, 2012 at 6:09 pm

        No i realised Pendles was coming back this week so old macs just bench cover

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      Don’t panic mate, hold on until this afternoon to wait for Jenkins and Giles to be confirmed. Depending on who you are playing I would be inclined to hold off on offloading Ryder, and hopefully they’ll know a bit more about his timeframe as it could be 2-6 weeks.

      You’re not eating donuts hopfully, so Keep Calm and Chive On

    • Megatron

      July 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      Jenko will play. Adelaide have lost all their talls, he should actually score pretty well this weekend.

      • Waffles

        July 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm

        Not with Jacobs getting 150 hit outs.

        • Daniel

          July 13, 2012 at 6:14 pm

          My Teams as it stands is
          Def: Deledio, Heppell, Dempsey, Carrazzo, Wilkes, Birchall and unfortuneatly Bugg (Mohr, God)
          Mid: Hayes, Pendles, Boyd, Thomo, Stanton, Zorko (Old Mac, Horse)
          Ruck: Roughead (Trade for injured Ryder), Jenkins (Giles, Campbell)
          Fwd: Sidey, Petrie, Dangerfield, Darling, D.Smith, A.Kennedy, Saad (Cameron, Dusty)

          starting adam kennedy on ground instead of Cameron because of Cameron’s poor form of late

  15. Stevo

    July 13, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Def: Deledio, Scotland, Waters, Goddard, Carrazzo, Suckling, Hargrave (Darley, Shaw)
    Mid: Swan, Ablett, Watson, Pendlebury, Mitchell, Ebert, (Gibson, Williams)
    Ruc: Ryder, Giles (Redden, Campbell)
    Fwd: Beams, Franklin, Sidebottom, Chapman, Robbinson, Dangerfield, Martin (Zorko, Porps)
    5 trades and $91,000 left

    Option 1
    Downgrade porps …
    hargrave to Birchall
    then giles to cox/maric

    Option 2
    Waters to Birchall
    downgrade porps to …
    upgrade hargrave or giles

    Option 3
    Ryder to Cox/Maric
    Waters to Birchall

    going for league win and only one team I play doesn’t have Waters

    • MMM Boags

      July 13, 2012 at 11:39 am

      I’d go option 3 with Ryder & Waters both out for a while

    • We Got Big Cox

      July 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      yeah #3.

      martin and goddard should be on your bench too.
      they are out this week.

      you have also got to consider saving a trade and enough cash to upgrade ebert to pendles or murphy when they bottom out.

  16. MMM Boags

    July 13, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Am i crazy to go McDonald to Couch…. it will DPP link me again to cover Martin for this week… with Treloar to cover Buddy…

    Only problem is Couch will be vested says the Sub Marine…. I just can’t afford Goodes…. Because im going Waters -> Scottland.

    Can i borrow some money?

    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

      do you have to go scotland?

      what about carrtos or suckling?

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      yeaa, although scotland is probably the 3rd or 4th most reliable DEF, id go suckling or carrots

  17. Slappers


    July 13, 2012 at 11:46 am

    wow been hit with another injury.

    so far my injury list of current outs are – buddy, waters, god, martin, ryder. (and no reasonable cover)

    3 trades left. im looking pretty solid for finals 1st and 2nd in leagues.

    should i hold trades?

    if i trade i was thinking:

    waters – suckling or waters – suckling or waters – carrots
    ryder – cox dickson – goodes big o – campbell

    (the 3rd option will give me extra cash for a upgrade before GF if i make it)

    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 11:47 am

      shit it stuffed up…

      options were

      waters – suckling
      ryder – cox


      waters – suckling
      dickson – goodes


      waters – carrots
      big o – campbell

      • Flying_High

        July 13, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        Ryder has to go if you have the Giles/Redden/Orren as your other three ruckmen. Redden and Orren won’t get many games and Giles will probably have a rest in the next 4 weeks.

        • Slappers


          July 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm

          i have ryder, goldy (big o, redden)

  18. Slappers


    July 13, 2012 at 11:50 am

    my worry is that they say:

    ryder – 3-4weeks
    waters – 3-5weeks
    buddy – 3weeks

    but really if essendon/eagles/hawks are going to make finals you would think that they would keep these players out until then so that they are fresh for the bigger games…


    so i think we should trade them all out…


    • We Got Big Cox

      July 13, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      percentage is important this year, unlike in recent years.
      you could reasonably expect teams to feild there best 22 if they are pushing for a top 2 or 4 place on the ladder.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      True, but the doctors who are publsihing those time frames might already be including that period of extra caution. And as above, these teams are pushing for top 4, not cruising for top 2.

  19. IanB

    July 13, 2012 at 11:53 am

    I’m expecting Pendles and Murphy to drop in price over the next 2 rounds and I’ll tory to get them in then. But I don’t know what to do with Franklin (I know what I’d like to do TO him o
    And Hawthorn but that’s another matter). Who would I trade him out for? Adam Goodes is a possibility but I think he will drop as well.

    Should I keep Buddy?

    If not, who comes in?

  20. agups

    July 13, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Got two out in the forward and backline each. Waters and Goddard + Buddy and Tippett (possible late withdrawal). Bringing in Goodes for A. Hall, should I trade in Couch or Baguley? Either one will give me one bench cover in the forward and backline, so I guess I’m looking for the one with the best JS + scoring potential. Couch’s VFL season has been well reported, don’t know so much about Baguley though. I don’t want to bring in someone that’s not going to play for the rest of the year because I’ll need to bench cover.
    After this week I’ll have 3 trades left, which means I’m holding onto Waters, Goddard and Buddy unless someone can convince me otherwise.

    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      hold on to goddard…

      with the other 2.. who knows mate…

      as i said above could be 3-4weeks they out… but i feel they wont be back until after round 22… (if there teams are in good positions to make finals)

      • agups

        July 13, 2012 at 12:24 pm

        yeah that’s the annoying thing. I don’t mind having to make those trades in rd 21-22 if needed, I should be playing finals which is why im holding onto them. Just don’t want to enter finals with 1 trade the way things have gone this season.

        Couch or Baguley though?

  21. Jerome

    July 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    what round should i get pendles and murph in??

    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 12:13 pm

      2-3weeks after they come back

      • Waffles

        July 13, 2012 at 12:36 pm

        Sauce Jacobs ormcevoy?

  22. Eli

    July 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Would you prefer Andrew Gaff or Lenny Hayes?

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      In the Sack? Lenny for sure.

  23. Chillbills

    July 13, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Is anyone getting Pav for Franklin? Freo have a few easy games coming up.

    • Arron

      July 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm

      I went buddy to pav and hoefully bring buddy back when he’s back by upgrading another forward. pav in good form and easy run

  24. Monsters

    July 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Thanks and good-bye Chook!

    Trade out McDonald or Horsley?

  25. Jerome

    July 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    I hope zorko doesn’t end up being like mzungu from freo.
    Cos mzungu was the best pick up of 2011 but now no on talks about him DT wise

  26. Squall

    July 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Great article, as per usual. Long time reader here, first time team poster:

    Def: Deledio, Goddard, Scotland, Johnson, Heppell, Lake, Carrazzo, S Shaw, Darley

    Mid: Stanton, Boyd, Swan, Ablett, A Swallow, Sloane, D Smith, Gibson

    Ruck: Cox, Giles, Hale, Redden

    Fwd: Franklin, Sidebottom, Robinson, Dangerfield, Zaharakis, Martin, Zorko, J Staley, Smedts

    5 trades left, $12,000. Hale has played the entire season in the fwd line and I see him as cover for Fwd/Ruck, although with Giles dropping off Hale may take his place (depending on the impact of Bailey’s return).

    Only worried about a cash league win and sitting pretty in 2nd, but play the three best teams in the run home.

    Thinking Zaha – Goodes this week, but ideally would like to downgrade someone and get Beams in. Don’t think I have the trades to spare though. Thoughts?

  27. Isaac

    July 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    will couch definitely get the vest?

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm

      Definitely? Mark Neeld is on this forum tomorrow so can probably answer your question then.

  28. Ryan

    July 13, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Burgoyne n gram or caraZo n ellis.. ?! Ps goodluck all this round :)

  29. Balayah

    July 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Please someone, try your best in persuading me not to trade Waters out. I’m going for a league win, and I’m firmly cemented in 1st place but I find it hard watching two 400k+ players on the bench (still holding on to H-Mac). Scotland looks tempting (already have Birchall and Carrazzo). Oh yeah, and I have 3 trades left – that’s right folks, THREE.


    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

      if thats your only problem then your doing fine…

      i have 3 trades and i have
      god, buddy, ryder, martin and waters all out…

      im currently 1st and 2nd in my leagues and i think i might hold onto them…

      as long as you stay in top 4 you should be fine.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      Balayah mate, don’t be a silly sausage. I’ve got Waters, Goddard warming the bench this week.

      So much upside if you hold on, and you can always trade him out of things go wrong.
      Waters will even be a unique come finals time!

    • Daudy

      July 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm

      I have Waters, Goddard, Martin and Buddy sitting on the bench, and five trades left. I’m holding, and so should you with only three!

      Kept GAJ, Mumford and Pendles through their injuries too for that matter.

      • leetrevor81

        July 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm

        You save those trades for LTIs, and Waters is out for possibly 5/8 weeks, so if I were you with 5 trades left I would use at least 1 for Waters IMO

  30. Adam

    July 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I think I’m in a bit of trouble here.

    Franklin and Martin out and Sexton, Milera and Crozier as my cover options. Add to that I’m a Waters, Goddard and Ryder owner with only have 3 trades left to somehow fix this miss.

    What makes it worse is I traded Hall who would have helped a little with this mess out a couple weeks ago for Crozier and kept Milera since it appeared that Milera had the better JS ’cause I needed the cash

    • leetrevor81

      July 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      If your going fo a league win and can cop a few losses while those guys recover from injiuries hold on to your trades.

      If your going for overall result trade out the guys who are out for the longest and cross every appendage

  31. joshyd123

    July 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    worth doing bugg to yarran? or who can i downgrade bugg to?

    • Flying_High

      July 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      That Essendon rookie Baguley. The problem is that his job security is good until all the injured players return for the DT finals.

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      McInness from Carlton is a DEF to watch. Don’t like his JS but nothing different compared to Baguley.

  32. shadowboxer89

    July 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Waters injured should i go for Birchall or Scotland?

    • Slappers


      July 13, 2012 at 1:17 pm


      • Nabzz

        July 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm

        Can’t go wrong with either but I’d lean towards scotland looking at Carlton’s soft draw.

  33. Flying_High

    July 13, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    What is Yarran’s rise if he scores another 90 or so? If it’s less than 40k.
    Waters —> Scotland this week
    Bugg —-> Yarran week after

    Set team with four trades left for long term injuries.
    I’ve only got the one trade more for the week after J.Mac —> Goodes (saves the Martin donut aswell).

    • Nix

      July 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      Not looking good, if Yarran scores 90 he goes up approx $40.6

  34. Flying_High

    July 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Can everyone not get on Birchall, please. Someone’s gonna jinx him and he’s done well for me this season (when he plays).

    • Shazzam

      July 13, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      That would be me. Sorry in advance.

  35. Ryan

    July 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Burgoyne and gram combo?


    Carazzo or ellis??

    I dont know which will avrrage out higher..cara will prob have a 100 av but ellis 50-70? And burgoyne n gram can score between 60-110.. Eep!!

  36. Adam

    July 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    This is easily the hardest week for me to make a decision whether to trade or not……..

    B: Waters, Scotland, Deledio, Goddard, Bugg, Drummond, (Shaw, Bootsma)

    C: Watson, Rockliff, Mitchell, Pendles, Priddis, Shuey (Horsely, Williams)

    R: Cox, NicNat (Redden, Orren)

    F: Buddy, Sidey, Robbo, Martin, Danger, Tippet, Hawkins (Didak, Walsh)

    3 Trades, $2,900 in the bank.

    In the 8 by 1 game….

    2 Hard matchups coming in a row..2 easy ones after that….

    Really considering moving Waters on. Was going to be for Carrots, but I like the idea of freeing up more cash. What’s the verdict on Yarran? Would give me 200+k.

    I could then go Williams>Goodes and sub Martin to the Mids bench. Would give me good cover for the rest of the season with 1 LTI trade and 30k cash…..

    Any ideas?

    • Adam

      July 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm


    • Crilly10

      July 13, 2012 at 3:21 pm

      You witnessed what happened this fortnight with outs… eg franklin, Goddard, waters martin etc.

      3 trades should be saved for finals unless you wont make finals, it’s better to scrape into finals and have a stronger run, then convincingly make finals but have no hope of doing any good as you have no trades.

  37. Jerome

    July 13, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    i need a second ruckman and cant afford anyone above 417,000.
    Who should i get???

    • HirscHirscH

      July 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

      Not Sandilands.

      • Jerome

        July 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm

        cheers really helpful, i will take that into account.
        But really I am upgrading Giles and need a second ruck under 417,000

    • Crilly10

      July 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm

      Thought about McEvoy as a unique?
      Otherwise I’d look at Jacobs, he has a pretty easy run home, plays GWS this week and should pound out a few monster scores.

  38. duma417

    July 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    trade in Suckling or Johnson

    or Yarran?

    • Crilly10

      July 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm

      None, wait a week for johnson.

  39. Crilly10

    July 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Sitting fourth in my league and play nothing but the bottom end of the table until finals. Should hopefully make it into top two, so should I trade?

    Def- DLids, Godd(OUT), Waters(INJ), Brought, Adcock, Heppell, Carrazo… Sam Shaw, Ellis

    Mids- Ablett, Boyd, Thompson, Pendles, Mitchell, Horse… Gibson, Shiel(INJ)

    Ruck- Cox, Giles… Redden, Stephenson

    Fwd- Sidey, Beams, Robinson, Buddy(INJ), Martin(OUT), Zorko, Smedts… Paine, A.Hall

    12 trades still + 120,000

    Just want a league win.

    Cheers any feedback would be great!

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm

      Firstly downgrade stephenson to a rookie maybe Dericx.
      DEF should be fine cos of cover from ellis and shaw.
      Put Gibson on the field instead of Horse

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm

      Get rid of Giles as well, cos there are plenty of options around the 370-420,000 mark.
      You can trade Buddy out cos you have the trades maybe a Goodes or Pav will serev you well.
      Then maybe you could upgrade Smedts.

      Good luck

      • HirscHirscH

        July 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

        The last person to trade out Giles died from a UTI that got out of hand. Definitely upgrade Stephenson before Giles.

        Nice team for 12 trades left. Jealous

    • Daudy

      July 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      12 trades? Holy moly! That’s a lot to have still around.

      Backline looks ok, but I think your forward line is in all sorts of trouble. I’d look at upgrading Hall and/or Paine to someone. Use the one you’re not upgrading to downtrade to someone like Couch, Murdoch, McIntyre, etc for funds. Smedts as F7 doesn’t really cut it, but he seems to have reasonable JS and is good bench cover.

      The other thing that needs attention are mids. Horse out for an established Premo. I can’t see any way of quickly raising funds to turn him into a Watson, GAJ or Swan, but the rest of your midfield is reasonable. I’d look into a slightly cheaper premo like Redden, Rockliff, J. Selwood, or even Cotchin, etc. One option is to wait a few weeks for Marc Murphy to drop in price.

      Then you’d also probably want to upgrade a ruckman. If you can scrape the funds, upgrade Redden or Big O and keep Giles as cover, but otherwise try get a cheap second ruck like McEvoy or even Mumford.

      Both Big O and Redden have been unreliable cover so far, but Big O did have a big day out in the reserves last weekend (something like 28 disposals and 40+ hitouts) so he may come back soon.

      • Crilly10

        July 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm

        Cheers for the feedback everyone, to that last comment, I already have GAJ, and the plan was to swap shiel in the next week or two when couch or mcyintyre is showing some promise. Shiel is worth 350, all I’d have to do is trade him down then Horse to swan. I just want to wait because Swan is at 600, wait till he’s at maybe 560 in two weeks hopefully and ‘swoop’ in for that magpie.

        Yeah my forwards got hurt when Zahar took a hit and I put smedts there and traded in shaw in the backline. What are the thoughts on Goodes anyone?

        Is he still premo or is he too inconsistent… almost like a NVoldt in a way? I just don’t know if I’m sold.

        My rucks aren’t great but I’m happy with my choice of Cox and Giles, at least they’ve continued to play throughout the year. Unlike Mcintosh and co.

        Thanks again for all the help! Love discussing dt!

        • Daudy

          July 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm

          Dur, somehow missed the GAJ in the lineup.

          I really like Goodes. Was one of the few injuries I did trade out this year, but I’ve been annoyed all week I am $5k short on bringing him back through my preferred plan. He’s been in my DT for the last couple of years. Has been tried and trusted (especially on the back end of the season) by many DT coaches.

          If it weren’t for a much wider crop of well scoring forwards this year (Beams, Sidey, Zorko, plus usual suspects like Chappy and Buddy) and the slow start back from injury (Goodes’ longest layoff ever), he’d be close to the number one must have for the forward line. I’d say his past history, his ridiculously low price (13k below D. Martin!), and his last game, outweigh the potential for sub-par DT performances caused by his layoff.

  40. bigfriednoodles

    July 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    What about Bryce Gibbs? A couple of good scores lately. Has his role in the team changed lately and is he likely to score more with Kade Simpson off the field?

    My team/midfield is pretty weak, so I’m pretty keen to buy some undervalued players. I’m waiting for Pendlebury, but could really do with a good trade for Horsley this week and Gibbs looks good to me.

    • Jerome

      July 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

      or you can get Goodes

    • Daudy

      July 13, 2012 at 3:35 pm

      I’d take Goodes over Gibbs, but both open up interesting DPP options for you for nearly the same price.

      Also consider Marc Murphy, with a BE of over 200, he’ll be dropping in price. His imminent return may also affect Gibbs’ recent output.

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