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Will you wait for me?

We have all seen it in the movies; the guy gets sentenced to jail… just before he gets rammed into the back of the jail van he says “wait for me?” the door slams shut as the girl wipes a tear away from her eye… 5 minutes later she is banging the post man. Will you wait for James Magner and Lachie Neale?

We have all seen it in the movies; the guy gets sentenced to jail…. just before he gets rammed into the back of the jail van he says “wait for me?” the door slams shut as the girl wipes a tear away from her eye.

5 minutes later she is banging the post man.

If this sounds familiar it should, because the lockout is going to slam on our teams soon and we are going to be faced with this very situation. Already Mr Magner and Mr Neale have thrown a spanner in our works. As we all know midyear trades are like gold, the dreaded 3-4 week injury is always the toughest to digest. Do I trade or do I wait? Each week as the zeros go by you are haemorrhaging cash, and by extension the chance to win that car.

But now we have unlimited trades! The decision should be easy – kick’em to the curb!

But no…. if we think about this clearly we have done all the hard yards, done all the research and come up with a list of the players we think will make us the most cash, does it really matter if they miss the first one or two weeks? What if you bring in a rookie playing round one and it ends up being Relton Roberts mk2 … or worse still Relton Roberts??

Let’s be honest, it takes a HUGE set of balls to pick a player that you know isn’t playing round 1…. To actually play for a donut or 2. Especially with a lot of people playing a 3 rookie ruck set up, they need the cash flow really pumping to get those upgrades done.

But are these boys any better than the rest? Well Neale is loved by the coach but could be a vest specialist. As for the Magnet, he looks DT gold but if he misses a few weeks and Couch takes his upgrade spot and excels where does that leave Mr Magnet? On your team with a big fat zero permanently next to his name. These are only two of the rookies that are causing selection posers.. then we have Hall, we have the tussle between Bugg and Darley for the one spot….. what if you pick the wrong dude? Then there are the premo’s that haven’t shown much in the pre-season… do they even care? Can we still pick them? Hello Zaharakis, Robinson, Beams? Anyone home? Can you pick any of them on faith alone?  But those are questions for another week…..

All I want to know is will you wait for Magner and Neale if they don’t play round one? Or will you bang the postwoman?

Twitter@adzman78

83 Comments

83 Comments

  1. prismz

    March 11, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Bang the postwoman

    • knickers

      March 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      +1

  2. The Man

    March 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Prismz u just cost me a 1st!!

    • prismz

      March 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      my pleasure :)

  3. giants

    March 11, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Hall I’d be inclined to stick with, because there doesn’t look to be that many great forward rookie otions. In the midfield though I think you need guys who are playing round 1. If your players miss the first two rounds, not only are you opening yourself up to donuts, but you’re going to fall behind in terms of cash generation as well.

  4. The Man

    March 11, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Can only 1 of Couch or Magner be upgraded from the rookie list?? Jurrah is LTI as well?

    • giants

      March 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      Both can be upgraded, though I think Nicholson might get one of those spots.

      • adzman

        March 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm

        good call! i think i might stick with the magnet…… i’d be getting fidgety if he didnt play round 2 though

      • Benny

        March 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm

        I thought there were 3 upgrade spots at Melbourne? Though I may be wrong.

        http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/130462/default.aspx

        • The Man

          March 11, 2012 at 2:45 pm

          Thanks Benny. The 3 should be Nicholson, Magner & Couch then u would think.

          • PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)

            March 11, 2012 at 6:58 pm

            Wel couch should be a good pick up then with his dpp, good inside mid :)

    • Rossjc

      March 12, 2012 at 8:54 am

      The Demons can upgrade 3 players so I think Nicho Magnet & Couch will be upgraded

    • Andrew

      March 12, 2012 at 9:31 am

      all 3 can go up

  5. Pittbull

    March 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Round 1 captain loophole?

    • Benatration

      March 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm

      sssh. Most people think they can’t actually do it anymore

      • The Man

        March 11, 2012 at 2:47 pm

        You’d have the option of doing it in either the gws sydney game or the Carlton richmond game there should be two partial lockouts. i’ll try it with martin.

        • snorks23

          March 11, 2012 at 3:34 pm

          I’ve got Bock and Conca, so can put the C on one of them and try for Martin with the loophole.

          • The Man

            March 11, 2012 at 5:10 pm

            What? if u put the C on a playing player there is no loophole. You put the vc on a player in the partial lockouts and if they dont score something ur happy with put the C on a different player, ie, swan or ablett. So i will put the vc on martin if he scores 130 or more keep it.

    • StBrendon

      March 12, 2012 at 9:57 am

      What is the captain loophole?

  6. JungleMuffin

    March 11, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Same thing applies to Lids… I’ve had him locked in up until yesterday…. I’ll be banging the postman on that one.

    • Sauce

      March 11, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      Lids is apparently going to play this week. Will be good to see him get a run even if it’s just half a game.

      • Aidan

        March 11, 2012 at 3:23 pm

        Ive been the same – go for delideo or bitchall/sucking and cash

        • The Man

          March 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm

          Is Lids didak or Delidio?????? Everyone says something different!

          • Warnie

            Warnie

            March 12, 2012 at 7:54 pm

            Lids is Deledio… Dids is Didak.

  7. adzman

    March 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    it would almost be impossible to pick zaharakis on the form he has shown.. but is it just nab form… or is it a real concern?

    • cookiemon72

      March 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm

      Same with no neck very wary of back injuries im off both for now will consider the magnet anyways shown too much to use trade later sure well hope we will hear more re rookie upgrades soon and loophole is always tempting just for the f**k of it good article yet again adz initially thought it was about Liam j from the headline appreciate your enthusiasm

      • Aidan

        March 11, 2012 at 3:21 pm

        I just found the cash and traded zaha out for goodes just to be sure

        • portetdaspet

          March 11, 2012 at 3:37 pm

          Friday night was a concern for Zaharakis. Normally I don’t take much notice of premiums in NAB Cup, but I feel for Zaharakis to score 95+ (which he would need to do to be a good pick) he needs to be playing more than half the time in the midfield. On Friday he was stuck in a forward pocket way too much to score those big numbers. Worse than that, there were a lot of midfielders for Essendon that were either injured last year or look to have stepped up like Melksham, Colyer and Winderlich. If Essendon play a full side, Zaha might find himself forward too much.

      • adzman

        March 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm

        cheers cookiemon.. how i didnt work in a jurrah machete reference ill never know!

      • Bandicoot

        March 12, 2012 at 10:52 am

        Cookie,
        do you have any idea what a . is. It’s called a full stop and tells people when you have finished one statement and are now starting the next one. They are handy little buggers.

        • Sloth

          March 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm

          I felt like I needed to take a breath after finishing his ramble!

  8. Mr Squiggle

    March 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Is Maric Richmond’s no1 ruck now?

    • giants

      March 11, 2012 at 3:21 pm

      Yes.

    • Sauce

      March 11, 2012 at 3:49 pm

      Yes, by a long way.

      Browne and Graham won’t play for as long as Maric is fit.
      Vickery is now 2nd fwd alongside Jack and will support Maric when needed.

      Derickx is backup for Maric, Jack & Vickery. Unlikely to play when all three of those are fit (unless Hardwick wants to go seriously tall up forward) but will get a guernsey before long before Browne or Graham do again, IMO.

      • James

        March 11, 2012 at 4:57 pm

        Cheers for the update, is my tentative second ruck behind Cox, after I dumped Sandilands and Stephenson for those two. Derickx was monstered by Griffin and Clarke last week, where Redden didn’t seem to have an issue yesterday.

        Will probably keep Magner for the moment particularly if Melbourne have 3(!) rookie spots available.

  9. Sully23

    March 11, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    If Magnet has only a dislocated his finger I’ll wait, if broken then no. Neale is good but there are other options that are just as good if not better from GWS although not as cheap.

    • The Man

      March 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm

      Neale is out for 3-4 with an ankle.

    • PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)

      March 11, 2012 at 7:01 pm

      Really how long does it take to find out if he’s broken or dislocated it?, thought we would of heard something by now

  10. RossFC

    March 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Bang the Panoswoman

  11. salza

    March 11, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Does anybody know what’s going on with Sierakowski?

  12. mainy.3

    March 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Wouldnt rule the magnet out just yet, but no way am i waiting for neale. Although he should be a great downgrade option if he comes into the Freo side around round 4 or 5 and plays a couple of games.

    • Spiff

      March 11, 2012 at 7:03 pm

      +1 right on the money

  13. stkildathunda

    March 11, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Magner tweeted that he is fine, nothing to worry about.

  14. mtooler

    March 11, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    I’ll tell you one mother of all locks just found their way out of my team, and short of 100 next week they’ll stay gone!

    • Pittbull

      March 11, 2012 at 7:31 pm

      Is it cam richardson? (or similar)

      • mtooler

        March 11, 2012 at 7:56 pm

        Haha, nah, not quite.

    • Fabregas

      March 12, 2012 at 10:41 am

      You must mean a certain S.Gibson..?

    • milhouse

      March 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm

      i reckon its goddard

  15. NT MAGGOTS

    March 11, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Both gone for me, the Maganet had on gong finger problems in his junior years, they might get back mid season if they can break back into their teams.

  16. Reprobates

    March 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Not for me. Want 30 players on the field Rd.1..golden rule. This is the only round that the DT’er can more or less hope their team will all play. May make a monetary difference later.

  17. JungleMuffin

    March 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Btw, does anyone know where I can find Time On Ground stats, or something that keeps track of substitutions please?

    Fantasy Freako’s PP$ stat is bordering on useless.

    • GrainFedBeef

      March 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm

      AFL.com.au, click on the game, then full stats, then advanced options. Can then sort by DT.

  18. NT MAGGOTS

    March 11, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    What happend to Gibson today? only 5 points makes me think we have our third injured rookie!

    • GrainFedBeef

      March 11, 2012 at 7:31 pm

      Good question, couldn’t see any comments. Only spent 11% of the time on the ground.

      Good rookies going by the wayside right now.

  19. cookiemon72

    March 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    See what you mean but only the 22 on the field contribute to your score and for the sake of the magnet missing 1-2 weeks (fingers crossed and we will know b4 lockout) is monetary value worth the use of a precious trade when he does play cheap as f**k will smash it imo most impressive of pre season rooks im backing the mighty magnet

    • Reprobates

      March 11, 2012 at 7:48 pm

      You back Magnet, I’ll back Miles, Clifton, McDonald any day.

  20. dools

    March 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    You pay $85k for someone, its for a reason. They haven’t even been elevated yet and no matter how good their nab cup form may not get more than a handful of partial games all season anyway! For a few bucks more you can get guys like mcdonald, shiels and d.smith which you know will get plenty of game time and score well. If he, couch or gibson does a “curnow” their first couple of games then I’m all ears. I had magnet in my team too but for now he’s lost his magnetic appeal in my squad.

    • cookiemon72

      March 11, 2012 at 8:05 pm

      Guess time will tell dont share your confidence re shiel playing round 1 havent seen him yet may prove to be similar conundrum to that of the magnet you may have to wait for him also could both become interesting pod’s if not playing early rounds all speculation at this stage

  21. cookiemon72

    March 11, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Response to reprobates by the way is it poss to change emergencies after partial lockout? this would allow you to have magner on field rd1 not scoring and option to switch emg score to another if not much chop..is this correct and need to be quiet or have i missed something?

    • Reprobates

      March 11, 2012 at 8:05 pm

      Cookiemon72, I don’t know enough about the ins and outs of partial lockout to comment. For me, McDonald, Clifton, Miles offer the best value in the mid field for rookies(of those still standing who may play Rd. 1). They will play most weeks and hopefully score well. All very good footy players.

    • Vishnu27

      March 11, 2012 at 10:32 pm

      You can change any player not particpating in the lockout round

  22. cookiemon72

    March 11, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    would like those 3 also will prob take punt on 2 of them if named rd 1 bit hesitant of jmac not playing full games but will still make you decent profit at his price and is proven scorer think i have just talked myself into him but must have Miles looks the goods at moment

  23. mtooler

    March 11, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    I wait for no man, those that do should lock in zeibel, bock and sylvia as smokies.

    • adzman

      March 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm

      good call!

    • odeyseus

      March 11, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      I seem to recall Sylvia missing round 1?

      • jacktenstar

        March 12, 2012 at 8:57 am

        He is saying that if you are going to pick a player not playing round one let it be Ziebell, Bock or Sylvia who also will miss a couple of rounds.

        This would give you a unique smokey that no-one else will pick because they miss these rounds.

  24. NT MAGGOTS

    March 11, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Anyone know why Gibson only played 11% of game time?

    • Warnie

      Warnie

      March 11, 2012 at 8:23 pm

      Probably because he isn’t in calculations for Round 1?

      • Murt

        March 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

        Either that or the coach plays DT and wants to throw everyone off and get a unique…

  25. cookiemon72

    March 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Much easier for me to have 85k sitting on the pine as opposed to 400k+ bock could well turn into top 6 def for year however and wouldnt be the worst pick imo mtooler im thinking you may drop s thompson??

  26. JimmyBob

    March 11, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    would definitely lock someone like shiel or the magnet despite their availability rd 1not yet guaranteed.

    quite confident both players will figure in their teams best 22 at some point.

    if no show by rd 3, trade for that player like Curnow v.2011

    its a marathon not a race

    • JungleMuffin

      March 12, 2012 at 12:11 am

      It’s a marathon, not a race.

      GJKSDAKJTSAFASJLDlolol. If I could give you a thumbs up, I would

      :D

    • giants

      March 12, 2012 at 10:55 am

      A marathon is a race?

      • JimmyBob

        March 12, 2012 at 9:19 pm

        hehe, im an idiot.

        *sprint*

  27. ozpokerpro

    March 12, 2012 at 12:13 am

    super coach anybody? invite code: 945803

    • adzman

      March 12, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      *crickets*

  28. Brak

    Brak

    March 12, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Hibberd 2011

    enough said

    • Sloth

      March 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

      He looked hungry on the weekend and throws himself into the contests like Mitch Robinson, but for that price he is pretty risky and you would want him to be pumping out 80-85+.

      Where do you base your hunch on?

      • Brak

        Brak

        March 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm

        I mean where peole picked him at the start of the season, thinking “he is certain to get a game soon” and he missed the first 6 or 7 games and by his first price rise you could have downgraded a starting rookie for him.

        If they are not picked Rd 1 I will also not pick them.

  29. Mucho-grande

    March 12, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Yes. You could do worse than having both Magner and Couch on your bench

  30. jeremy

    March 13, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    any swans supporters who finished in the top half join my league!!!
    576458

  31. Ethan Siegel

    March 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    I wouldnt wait

  32. Zan

    March 13, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    I would wait 4mins then kick’em to the curb!

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