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The Knee-Jerk: Round 15

Last week’s trade addiction bombshell leads me onto the logical next DT issue. Everybody knows what makes DT fun. It’s trading! Wheeling and dealing, building a team of guns. It’s trying to find star players on the cheap and getting them into your team. But it begs the question- how can you keep it fun once you can’t trade anymore?

Last week’s trade addiction bombshell leads me onto the logical next DT issue. Everybody knows what makes DT fun. It’s trading! Wheeling and dealing, building a team of guns. It’s trying to find star players on the cheap and getting them into your team. But it begs the question- how can you keep it fun once you can’t trade anymore? Sure subbing players is ok…but it’s no trading! It’s like drinking non-alcohol beer instead of the real thing. Is there any point? Trading is like being single; getting out in the nightclubs and picking up every week, don’t like her anymore? Next! But when you run out of trades you are locked in with what you’ve got. Even if she doesn’t put out any more and her breath tastes funny when you kiss. It’s easy to lose the passion for your team once the trades run out, how do you keep it up?


Colin Sylvia (65)

I’ve never really trusted Colin Sylvia, I trust him about as much as somebody who wears sunglasses while they are inside. I purchased him a month ago and he has done sweet FA ever since, I know I should have seen the signs when he came out with more tape on his knee than Tutankhamen but his average blinded me. Colin, I’d like you to meet Shaun Higgins, you and he are the first two people on the ‘never ever buy again’ list. You may as well get to know each other and compare injuries; I’ll come back in a few years when you’re done.

Chris Yarran (49 at 3qtr time)

He will probably make a fool of me and pump out a 50 point last quarter but the Jeckil and Hyde nature of Yarran can’t be trusted. He can look a world beater one minute and a spud the next, that’s not DT material for mine.

Rhys Palmer (30 at H.T)

You know when you buy an item on the internet and it looks awesome but you get it home and it’s a piece of crap? I reckon that’s how GWS will be feeling at the moment after shelling out the big bucks for this guy* (*allegedly) I hope they kept the receipt!


Daniel Cross (121)

Crossy used to be an ever present in my team up until last year. I finally figured there’s not a lot of point getting the ball 35 times if you aren’t going to kick it but junk time Crossy would always come home late and pinch 100. This year he started off tagging and looked dead as a dt’er but the boy has come back into calculations. One to watch if you need to fill a mid spot with a unique.

Mitch Robinson (110 at 3qtr time)

Let’s be honest here… Old mate Mitch fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, and he tumbles every kick he does end over end, but does any of this matter in DT? No. With the amount of stars in the Carlton midfield no team would worry about sitting on him so the result of this is that Mitch could be a sneaky differential pick in the middle of your team.

Jon Griffin (100+ at H.T and counting)

With a lot of people looking around for a new ruckman it’s ironic that the answer could lie in his direct replacement. He was a bit of a spud at Adelaide but seems to have come on as a player. If the prognosis for Sandi is bad I’d take this guy in a second, but we must be aware no matter how good he goes, he will be out the door as soon as Sandi returns, and that’s the big worry.

Other news

The fake cake.

Remember that time in the Simpson’s when Marge was making Maggies birthday cake and Homer wanted to eat the letters off it? Marge goes “Homer…I made you a fake cake to ruin”. Where does this fit in with DT you ask? Well Super coach is my fake cake. I don’t give a sh*t about it, I trade on Monday nights, I trade in speculative players, the things I do are the things I don’t have the guts to do in my DT. Super coach is my DT guinea pig. If a trade works in there, I’ll bring him into my DT a few weeks later. So Super coach does have a purpose! It’s the canary in the tomb alerting me to dangers before I risk my life (aka my DT).

Trading post.

In your daily DT chatting with mates it’s funny whenever somebody asks you the price of one of your premiums. You never know! I only ever know the prices of the players I want to buy or my cash cows and that’s only because I dream about the trading possibilities and funds required nightly. Owning a premium is like owning a new car, you fork out the big bucks then as soon as you take it off the show room floor it’s already lost 30% of its value, no point worrying about how much its worth, you are keeping it anyway.


I was gloating the other day showing my midfield to the mailman saying this is the best midfield I have ever assembled so early. He said he has exactly the same thing; then I came to realise that this year everybody has a top notch midfield. How did this come about? It’s because they gave us extra trades this year, which were supposed to be used to get us through the bye rounds and extra fixtures. But instead we just built a midfield of epic proportions. It’s an easy thing to do; I remember when I was a first year apprentice, it came to my first month of holidays and they gave me my holiday pay. My eyes were bulging at the wad of cash so I went straight to JB HIFI and bought a new stereo.  It felt good at the time but the end of the holidays were the pits; I was eating 2 minute noodles just to survive. I can already see myself eating noodles towards the end of this DT season too because I burnt my wad too early on a midfield stereo.

Savings plan.

Of all the annoying things that can happen to you in DT there is one that particularly riles me. If you are unlucky enough near the end of the year to run out of trades but still have money in the bank it is right up there in the annoying stakes. Each time you log on that money just stares you in the face…mocking you as you wonder what might have been, as you remember all the times you scrimped on a player and got a cheaper one. It’s not that hard for this to happen to you either. All it takes is for you to have a bit of money stashed away for a final upgrade then for your last two trades to go on Premium LTI’s who need no money to swap. The money just sits in there like your keys after you’ve locked them in the car – you can see them but you can’t use them and it’s the worst!

Well that’s it for this week, had to cut short the player news because I have to get out early to go watch the Bombers get mauled by the Cats (hope I’m wrong)

Any other thoughts out there?



  1. Pavlich29

    July 2, 2011 at 9:14 pm


  2. Mega-Goat

    July 2, 2011 at 9:36 pm


  3. Gertrude

    July 2, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Higgins (100) had me scared cos I picked Gu over him but thankfully the Gu repaid the faith :)

  4. Mega-Goat

    July 2, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Mitch Robinson is an absolute hero! His head is thicker than Fort Knox!

    • Ramrod

      July 3, 2011 at 5:06 am

      If he had a neck he’d be the ultimate DTer.

      • adzman

        July 3, 2011 at 8:05 am

        hes a datsun 180b…looks like shit but gets the job done.

        • mainy.3

          July 3, 2011 at 9:37 am

          but you dont see an owner of either these days.

  5. Gertrude

    July 2, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Also, do guys reckon Chappy us back in form (on 115 in the last quarter)?

  6. JungleMuffin

    July 2, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Love your work.

  7. Bluey Ruckle

    July 2, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Bit harsh on Mitch Robinson’s disposal I would have thought

  8. mattyboy001

    July 2, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Great intro – too true! It’s taken me 15 rounds to turn my crap starting team into a half-decent side. But only 4 trades left for injuries/finals now. How do you keep it fun??

  9. Glory

    July 2, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    LOL at everyone that picked up Callinan have to wait 3-4 weeks now for a price rise

    • James2911

      July 2, 2011 at 11:28 pm


    • OXnFOX

      July 3, 2011 at 5:22 am

      It doesn’t matter mate. He came into most sides as a quick downgrade and everyone makes a heap of cash off him.

      He is now used in most “good” teams just to swap around on FWD/MID benches with his DPP.

      He shouldnt be on anyones field too often, and he wont make enough cash in time to trade anyway.

      And if he did, i bet 90% of teams would have no trades left anyways.

      He should now be a “bench” keeper.

      • Batman

        July 3, 2011 at 9:04 am

        Exactly! Just as Joel Tippet has sat on the pine all year, yet provides the rope for Petrie to swing between ruck and forward.

    • JungleMuffin

      July 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      I don’t think any side will be using him for the price rise.

  10. James2911

    July 2, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Heppell and Ryder may not be classfied as bandwagoners, but there’s no way you could put them on the shockers list any longer. Hopefully Ryder’s first ton since round 1 is a sign of things to come, rather than an anomaly. Heppell is also repaying the faith after a lean period with a 100 to follow last week’s 81. Should help his Rising Star prospects too.

    • sid

      July 3, 2011 at 7:10 pm

      good call

  11. 44chappo

    July 2, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    where are the heppell owners now?

    • browncow

      July 3, 2011 at 12:32 am

      Kept faith in Heppell. Hopefully it pays off. Seems to be hitting form again the past few weeks. My backline is my weakest point, so I need players like Heppell and Stanley to keep pulling some decent scores.

    • Ramrod

      July 3, 2011 at 5:08 am

      Here. Had to give the kid a few bad rounds, he is a rookie after all. Also have him for Rising Star, so hope he keeps it up.

  12. 44chappo

    July 2, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    cats fans, where are they?

  13. 44chappo

    July 2, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    What happened to all the bartel owners?

    • Bazza_01

      July 3, 2011 at 10:41 am

      I’m right here

      • Gerryboy

        July 3, 2011 at 2:26 pm

        holding the faith, JUST!!!

    • gonzo

      July 3, 2011 at 7:27 pm

      It’s a sideways trade to G Ablett this week for me… Sorry Barnacle, I need Ablett and trading you makes room for Stevie J to come into my forward line. I will probably reget it next week when you smash out 135 but it’s a risk I have to take. Until next year amigo…


      • Milk_Lizard

        July 4, 2011 at 12:22 pm

        That is not even near sideways.

    • Tex

      July 3, 2011 at 8:26 pm

      Yeah, Bartel owner here wishing I had Ablett…the temptation to do Sandilands -> Lobbe, then Bartel -> Ablett is great, but with 5 trades left not sure if I should ‘risk’ it…

  14. R2-DT

    July 3, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Its no secret that Midfielders have the most potential to score, hence why they are worth every single cent.

    This year i would say the Backs are the most unpredictable and most teams would struggle to bring in players that are guaranteed to bust out 100’s. Players like Suckling and Scotland have proved to be the best pick-ups of the year where as members like Goddard and Gibbs continue to be unpredictable yet are proven guns.

    The Forward line is a little simpler with most enlisting the standard Franklin, Pavlich, Chapman give or take.
    Rucks also very similar Cox or Sandi the pars with the exception of some choosing Ryder or Goldstein.

    I was speaking to a league competitor about how a lot of our teams only have about 5-7 different players, I think the reason being that we are avoiding final bye players and scarce form of past guns eg Didak.

    2011 has been a strange year for DT.

    • browncow

      July 3, 2011 at 1:12 am

      Being a first year Dream Team player I am sure I have fallen into the traps that befalls most first time Dream Teamers. Picked way too many mid priced players. I also couldn’t see how the Rookies/Guns approach could possibly work. Made quite a few mistakes by thinking that players like Astbury and O’brien must be better options than Puopolo etc because they were reasonably cheap but had played a few games already. My backline is still my weakest point, and will be for the rest of the year because am running very short on trades. Can’t wait till next year to refine my thoughts/plans. This game is so much more addictive than I could imagine, and this site is by far and away the most helpful site out there. Love it!!

      • OXnFOX

        July 3, 2011 at 5:26 am

        You think its addictive now mate, wait until your “wife” and your “mum” start putting in teams :D

  15. The Floating Cricket

    July 3, 2011 at 6:22 am

    This is my 2nd DT year, and the addition of byes and subs has made it more complicated I think.

    Despite that, I’ve built a much better team this year than last, and might well score 2,300 for the first time this week. At the moment I’m ranked 24,928, not impressive I know, but much better than 65,000 where I started the year!

  16. Warnie


    July 3, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Oh Adzman… how about the Bombers?!

    • adzman

      July 3, 2011 at 9:23 am

      how sweet was that!!!

      i cant get too excited cause we lose to richmond next week :(

      • Warnie


        July 3, 2011 at 10:28 am

        Yeah… gotta get excited about that! I would have loved to have been there for it. The couch and a romantic evening with Calvin was pretty good tho. Was a dream night. The Assistant Coach has my projected score of 2457. Like I said, dream night.

  17. Shaun Dawgs

    July 3, 2011 at 10:03 am

    No mention of Ablett?

    • adzman

      July 3, 2011 at 10:54 am

      everyone knows he is a perma captain from now on!

      • Shaun Dawgs

        July 3, 2011 at 11:12 am

        mmm good point but still 175 is a massive effort


    July 3, 2011 at 11:30 am

    The trading fun is almost over for me only 2 trades left LOL

    Would love some more trades

    If it were possible to buy a 6 trade lot at this point of the season who would buy one?

    and how much would you pay????

    • The Southside Way

      July 3, 2011 at 11:49 am

      That would just ruin DT forever, because addicts like me would spend all of our money buying infinite trades!

      • FULL_TILT

        July 3, 2011 at 11:58 am

        You are only able to buy 1 lot

    • JungleMuffin

      July 3, 2011 at 7:00 pm

      It’d be a good idea, call it Free agency. You pay the price for the player you want in, premium etc, but have to “delist” a player from that line, but you don’t get the money back from delisting them. You only get 1 free Agency recruitment each season

      In: Buddy
      Out: 400k + Matera.

      Obviously it’s not ideal financially, which is half the point. It’s only really there to add another tactical element/last gasp shot at glory.

      • my blue roan

        July 4, 2011 at 4:12 pm

        Yeah..or how about a competition within the comp.
        Like…if you predict the highest Captain Score of the round…you get a free trade.

        Mainly I think though, with the new sub thingy..if your guy is made a sub, and scores less than 40…or if a player is subbed off before he makes 40..then you should be able to use an emergency.

  19. rossles26

    July 3, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I’m regretting not getting Ablett in when I had the chance to in rd 7 for $400 odd thousand. My train of thought was that I knew he would come good and start ripping it up but for some (maybe stupid) reason I had this nagging feeling that come rounds 21-24 he may be rested due to the Sun’s not having much to play for. I thought he may be rested to give more of the young guys a run and to secondly protect their biggest asset ahead of next season where obviously they will improve once the young lads have another solid preseason and a chance to bulk up more.

    What do you guys think? Obviously all of us that have been in the game long enough aren’t surprised by his monster score and we all know he can produce these numbers again and again on any given day. I’m concerned that he may be the game breaker come finals time and those without him won’t have a chance. My final team is almost set and I have just enough trades to see me through to the finals so I don’t really want to waste one on a sideways trade but is Ablett a must have? Do you think my thoughts of him perhaps being rested are credible or am I just in a sad state of denial? My team is as below with only two spots forward and back still to upgrade to a premo ahead of finals. I’m pretty happy with my mids which makes it even harder to consider a sideways to Ablett. Be interesting to hear everyone’s thoughts on whether Ablett’s a concern for you if you don’t have him, and even if you do, are you concerned he may be rested later in the season around finals time? Thanks in advance.

    Deledio, Suckling, Gibbs, Fisher, Shaw, Goddard, Heppell (Stanley, Popomofo, Jacobs)

    Murphy, Boyd, Pendles, Swan, Redden, Mitchell (Hibberd, Prestia, I.Smith)

    Cox, Sandilands (Z.Smith, J.Tippett) *Gonna hang onto Sandi and hope he comes good cause considering only two other guys in both my leagues have kept him he may become a good differential come finals.

    Fyfe, Pav, Sylvia, Goodes, Franklin, Riewoldt, Petrie (Mr. Mzungu, Lynch, Howe)

    • DT Anonymous

      July 3, 2011 at 12:34 pm

      You snooze you lose!!

    • sid

      July 3, 2011 at 7:17 pm

      i still believe ablett will be cottonballed near end of season , too much to offer next season

  20. rossles26

    July 3, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Sorry, since I don’t post very often I should have taken to chance to thank the DT Talk crew (and the regular contributors) on a great site and the best and most informative DT site going around. I’m not a huge poster but I’m as addicted to this site as badly as I am the DT game and have been for about 4 years now. I try to keep my posts relevant and thought provoking hence why I don’t do it often but this site has helped me heaps over the years and for that I sincerely thank everyone involved.

    Keep up the great work and I have enjoyed seeing the site and you guys personally grow and expand over the years. You all deserve all the success that comes your way now and beyond. Respecta!!

    • sid

      July 3, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      I got put onto this site the other week I have been in dt for 5 years. I still struggle to crack th2s regularly because i lacked a good site for what is happening to players and new players so I end up using my trades to get players like heppell,duigan, puopolo etc while they are still cheap it hurts me every year and instead of swimming with the sharks Im just bait for them to eat
      gibbs, enright, fisher, heppell, duigan, bachelor subs otten, tape, mckernan
      mitchell, pendelbury, thomas, goddard, bartell, houli subs prestia jacobs, isaac smith
      cox ryder lobe derickx
      mcglynn, zacharasis, waite, rioli, riowaldt, dawes, petrie,subs callinan, dalhaus, richardson
      ive got 2hund k in bank and 5 trades left
      i plan to upgrade mcglynn for pavlich and duigan for broughton
      any help to help swim with the sharks would be greatly appreciated

  21. Uncle Fester

    July 3, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Agree with the Sylvia call. I did the same thing bringing him in a month ago.

    Also brought in Deledio 3 weeks ago and he’s giving me the sh!ts. He hasn’t been shocking but given I’ve got Stanley and Heppell riding the pine this week (thought Lower would cream GCS), Deledio has been a pain in the a$$.

  22. Skooper

    July 3, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I have all the bandwagoners in my DT Pro team..ha! Great article every week BTW, good to have a read midway through the round.

    I agree with you that SC does help, but in my situation, it appears not to be helping. I give SC no time, DT takes up most of it but I am rippping it in SC with my team set with 1 upgrade to go, 7 trades left even though I wasted 2 sideways mid trades. I was in top 1% in DT at the start of the year and now Im at 3%. SC I started at 11% and now Im up to top 3% and looking at a score of 2400 this week. Maybe Im overthinking DT…eg I heard it was raining here in Perth on Saturday when GAJ was taking on the Dockers, so I thought I would be ‘smart’ and take the C of GAJ and put it on Boyd for DT, but leave it on GAJ for SC. Overthinking = Epic Fail !!

  23. Stevo_Dt

    July 3, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    whats the go with callinan?

    • Bazza_01

      July 3, 2011 at 5:52 pm

      Hamstring. I think I saw 3 weeks

  24. Randomdent

    July 3, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Knee Jerk A. Swallow to Swan?

    • Milk_Lizard

      July 4, 2011 at 12:27 pm

      I hear you… A.Swallow to Ablett I want.. Not enough trades or money to justify it :( I’m thinking perhaps Swallow to Montagna instead.. He was an uber premium last year and Saints will be doing everything they can to play finals this year.

  25. Dilkington

    July 3, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    What are people thinking about Rockliff? He’ll be 390k, 3 round average of 115, 5 round average of 100 but thats with a 59 game that he got injured i think. And only 2% of teams have him.

  26. my blue roan

    July 4, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Yeah..nah Adzman..
    I’m the other way round.
    Use DT to get info, and my team is so bad, I take huge risks and have fun..but hardly ever win.
    Haven’t even cracked the 2000 barrier yet.
    Had terrible bad luck ,to the point where it was funny…and called myself the Kiss Of Death.
    have to remember this is not SC though..when getting tips.
    It sure worked for Gazza though..who got more on SC.
    Wish there was a site as good as this for SC.

    Can’t wait till there is a TV show for Fantasy Footy.
    It should include both DT and SC I reckon.

    You should go for it along with the boys.
    You could be the guest funny guy at the bar…or like Seinfeld..:-D

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